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Aquaria => Support => Topic started by: Alec on December 17, 2008, 08:47:20 pm
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For those with a Bit-Blot version of the game, I need a hand testing the 1.1.2 installer! Ideally on Vista, so we can make sure the new usersettings.xml stuff works.
Also the vsync/double buffer problem should be fixed!
Please PM or email me (zaphire@gmail.com) ASAP. Once this is tested I can get the Steam update going. :D
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Hmmph. I doubt I will ever be able to test unless Bit Blot starts coming out with games only for Macs. I don't have windows :'(.
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I'd love to test the patch - I'm having slowdown issues with Aquaria in a window (not too major) and I'd like to see if they can be rectified.
[EDIT] Running 17-inch HP Pavilion dv7-1175nr laptop with 512 mb Geforce 9600m, 2 gigahertz Intel duo core CPU, and 4 gigs of ram
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I'll test it, I'm in windows vista Home Premium Edition 64 Bit Service Pack 1 (lenovo Y530 laptop) Intel Core Duo CPU T5800 @ 2.0 Ghz centrino dual core 4.00 GB Ram
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Wow nice man! :) I wish I had a rig like that.
I'm afraid you won't be able to use your entire screen - Aquaria 1.1.1 only supports up to 1400x900 resolutions. You'll be able to play the game in full screen, but the graphics will be pixelated and/or blurry.
False. -Alec
[EDIT] Oh. Okay. :( I am grievously mistaken. Sorry to have mislead anyone.
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What are you talking about Chibi? I didn't say anything about resolution, and I happen to be running the game at native resolution (actual size dimension in pixels of the display). Oh, btw that happens to be at 1280x800 ... which is no where near my HD BenQ LCD monitor running at 1920x1080.
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Aquaria 1.1.1 only supports up to 1400x900 resolutions. You'll be able to play the game in full screen, but the graphics will be pixelated and/or blurry.
I'm playing on a 30" panel. Do these look blurry or pixelated to you ? ;)
(http://img291.imageshack.us/img291/7531/aquaria2008121812091243rw4.th.jpg) (http://img291.imageshack.us/my.php?image=aquaria2008121812091243rw4.jpg)(http://img187.imageshack.us/img187/6637/aquaria2008121812091822kt7.th.jpg) (http://img187.imageshack.us/my.php?image=aquaria2008121812091822kt7.jpg)
The game is probably limited to 1440x900 on your config because that's the highest resolution it can display. Otherwise, you probably messed up something ;D
Back on topic : e-mail sent, I'd be glad to help.
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Ouch - Okay, I made a major mistake. :'(
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Everything's peachy with the installer. Works charmingly on XP through multiple installs/uninstalls, including over the top of an existing version of the program. And then I sat and played for a half hour not meaning to because I forgot just how much fun it is to swim around aimlessly like an idiot.
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hahah,... that doesn't make you an idiot... I'm sure many of us have done the same thing.
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Yeah - I spent about hours playing with the Ekkrit and trying to get him to push me into the Veil, singing along with the soundtrack, and otherwise eliciting odd glances from my sister (watching over my shoulder) ^-^
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Ok,.... that's just a little weird. :P haha j/k :D
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So... Aquaria's team members have parted ways and are working on other projects. Does that mean the testing and release of v1.1.2 may be compromised ?
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So... Aquaria's team members have parted ways and are working on other projects. Does that mean the testing and release of v1.1.2 may be compromised ?
Nope, we're still supporting Aquaria.
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BTW Alec, do you still need testers? If so, I'd like to test the patch.
I'd love to test the patch - I'm having slowdown issues with Aquaria and I'd like to see if they can be rectified.
[EDIT] Running Vista Home Premium on a 17-inch HP Pavilion dv7-1175nr laptop with 512 mb Geforce 9600m, 2 gigahertz Intel duo core CPU, and 4 gigs of ram
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question! is the latest version 1.1.2 or 1.1.1
according to the Aquaria.exe, its 1.1.2.0:
Length Of Struc: 02CCh
Length Of Value: 0034h
Type Of Struc: 0000h
Info: VS_VERSION_INFO
Signature: FEEF04BDh
Struc Version: 1.0
File Version: 1.1.2.0
Product Version: 1.1.2.0
File Flags Mask: 0.23
File Flags: PRERELEASE;
File OS: WINDOWS32
File Type: APP
File SubType: UNKNOWN
File Date: 00:00:00 00/00/0000
Struc has Child(ren). Size: 624 bytes.
Child Type: StringFileInfo
Language/Code Page: 2048/1200
Comments: PMcG
CompanyName: Bit Blot
FileDescription: Aquaria
FileVersion: 1.1.2
InternalName: Aquaria
LegalCopyright: © 2007-2008 Bit Blot, LLC
OriginalFilename: Aquaria.exe
ProductName: Aquaria
ProductVersion: 1, 1, 2, 0
Child Type: VarFileInfo
Translation: 2048/1200
though theres a thread about "how to obtain the latest version 1.1.1" or something like that. whats newer, whats the latest version?
i have trouble with the game. i decided to buy it (anyway) but those graphics driver crashes are frustrating. id gladly patch it with the "new" 1.1.2 beta version...
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Well, the latest public version is I believe 1.1.1, I don't know if 1.1.2 is out yet.
Either way, it's propably a stupid suggestion, but have you tried updating your drivers yet? >_>
Oh and on-topic, I have Vista, I'd love to test the Beta, if you want me to check or test things put a note with it.
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you have no idea how many drivers i tried...
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I'd also love to help test it, but I'm useless if you only need Vista testers. I have one system with a Radeon 9800 and a cardboard box with a GeForce 3 (Athlon 64 and Athlon XP, respectively), if you're interested in testing low- to middle-end (?) XP systems. I can also test it against Wine (under 32- and 64-bit Ubuntu) if you're really interested, but that might not be a good idea since the bugs could also be inside Wine itself.
Oehr: Have you tried (if possible) really old drivers? On my Radeon 9800, for example, anything newer than the 7.11 drivers (which are over a year old) borks Aquaria's textures. (And that happens to be when ATI did a major rework of their OpenGL code, I believe.)
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Well, the latest public version is I believe 1.1.1, I don't know if 1.1.2 is out yet.
The Steam version is up to at least 1.1.2 now, but the normal version is still at 1.1.1.
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awesome. the demo didnt crash as often as the full version... i barely got to my home land and it crashed. song cave crash. twice...
i cant even finish the demo part without any crashs!
This sucks! i want my money back or a working game!
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Would you mind posting your debug.log somewhere? Maybe there are some clues in there.
And what exact OS do you have? And your Video card? We'd need more info to help you.
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specs:
G80 8800GTS 640MB DDR3 (standard clock) (current driver: 185.20)
E6600 @ 3.0GHz (standard voltages, stable, tested with orthos 24 testrun priority 8)
6GB Dual Channel @ DDR2-667 5-5-5-18 (Kingston 1GB DDR2-667 ValueRam, Team Group 1GB DDR2-667 ValueRam, 2x OCZ 2GB XTC Plantinum DDR2-667)
Windows Vista Home Premium 64bit
debug.log: http://ensouongaku.com/animeplanet/oehr/randomness/debug.log
usersettings.xml: http://ensouongaku.com/animeplanet/oehr/randomness/usersettings.xml
dxdiag.txt: http://ensouongaku.com/animeplanet/oehr/randomness/DxDiag.txt
P.S. i just noticed it clearly says 1.1.2 in the title screen ^^
P.P.S. i cant attach files... directory is not writeable...
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I'm sorry to say, but I personally can't find anything that means something to me, and I've skimmed through a lot.
Either way, you propably have already done it, but did you try putting off some options like framebuffer?
And when the games crashed was there anything you did? Like, did it just crash, or at a certain point, or when you were doing something?
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I can't find anything meaningful either, but it does look to me like Aquaria shut everything down neatly last time you ran it... Would you be willing to play until it crashes again and then post the resulting debug log before restarting Aquaria? Or is that what you did? (I could be wrong about the tidy shutdown, but my log ends the same way.)
And please be patient. There are many things that can cause a program to crash.
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it often crashes when it shows an area ahead. like in the song cave. there are 4 notes you have to play in order to open the door. you find those four notes in an room with some strange feral creatures sculptures. then theres also a skulpture of the door for those who cant figure out what the notes are four. if you rightclick on it, it shows you the door. thats when the game crashed for me twice.
theres also another sculpture of a feral creature(?), though just a head. the first time you go near it, a strange laughter was played. it crashed twice here too, just because of the laughter?!
im going to school, i post a new log later on and get the new beta driver 182.05... i hope those do the trick!
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Well, Alec did want people to test Vista for him, you have Vista, so maybe this is what he was afraid for or something?
I really hope it's another problem. Have you tried to reinstall it yet? And would it be possible for you to get the 1.1.1 version?
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Weird! Maybe it is a Vista64-specific problem or something even more specific to your setup.
It sounds like you have the Steam version, in which case you can't try v1.1.1, but here are a couple other quick things you could try. They're long shots, but if they get the game working...
-Disable Steam's friends list/chat overlay. It doesn't give me any problems, but you have a different OS and hardware, and it's been known to cause problems with other games in the past.
-Run Steam's "verify integrity of game cache" option to check for corrupt files.
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i bought it via steam, so if theres no standalone 1.1.1 installation i can get, i won't be able to test it. though it seems like i can modify the files itself. i edited the
unfortunately my internet connection is pretty for redownloading the game again but steam verify didnt find any problems nor redownloaded any file(s).
i disabled framebuffer effects and steam overlay and i was finally able to play 2h straight without any crashes. i stopped after that though. my next try will be with framebuffer effects enabled again, though ill take a break first
P.S. 50% of the VGA driver finished... only another 3 hour! yay...
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Hehe, good to hear that you were able to play 2 hours straight, I hope stuff will go better from here on, sadly enough I don't have much experience with Steam.
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ok this time i played with framebuffer effects enabled and steam overlay disabled and it crashed after around 10 to 20mins...
heres the new debug.log:
http://ensouongaku.com/animeplanet/oehr/randomness/debug.zip
i decided to zip it because its over nearly as big as 3MB...
next test will be overlay enabled and framebuffer disabled.
P.S. now using 182.05!
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Holy cow!
"ACH_REACHED_OPEN_WATERS was already achieved" This line is in the file 59061 times!
I think... that this one might be the problem, even though it is only a debug line.
I also noticed that these 3 lines are in there a lot.
moneye: damage function failed
removing target from shot
Pet_Nautilus: entity diedI suppose you use the nautilus pet, have you tried not using it?
And again, did you join a certain spot and then crashed? Or is it still all random?
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it crashed with framebuffer and steam overlay enabled all the time even without the pet.
the(se) crash(es) seemed completely random, at least this time...
now checking framebuffer disabled and overlay enabled! on my beautiful new 26" full hd 1920x1200 display. lets see if my pc is fast enough to run aquaria :D
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framebuffer disabled, steam overlay enabled, 182.06
CRASH. (after 30mins to 45mins)
log: http://ensouongaku.com/animeplanet/oehr/randomness/debug2.zip (log size: 4,66MB)
IM WILLING TO HELP FIXING THIS,
but without any "official" replies i wont post anymore. also i want my money back! i dont want to pay for a buggy, all the time crashing, unplayable game. and if theres nothing to look forward to(PATCH), i dont see a reason too keep it. i wont install another OS just to play the game without bugs! its worse than the time gothic 3 was released. though there might not be visiual bugs, but it crashes way more often!
P.S. again: game crash is always caused by crashed drivers!
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IM WILLING TO HELP FIXING THIS,
but without any "official" replies i wont post anymore. also i want my money back! i dont want to pay for a buggy, all the time crashing, unplayable game. and if theres nothing to look forward to(PATCH), i dont see a reason too keep it. i wont install another OS just to play the game without bugs! its worse than the time gothic 3 was released. though there might not be visiual bugs, but it crashes way more often!
I'm sure Alec won't mind refunding you, but there are hundreds of other players who played the game perfectly. The game runs well on almost every other computer, and the issue is almost unique to yours. I can attest to the fact that Aquaria runs on Vista x64. Gothic 3 is a bad comparison, because it was riddled with bugs from the start. My only idea would be to downgrade your drivers, especially if you're running a beta version - that sometimes helps. Good luck! I'm sorry I can't help you more.
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my brother recently switched to vista 64bit with nearly the exact same pc specs and he also has aquaria(steam). though he didnt play aquaria yet.
back on his 32bit vista it also crashed sometimes, but not that often. i think it was the same error as im getting all the time...
also here are the list of drivers i tested(all 64bit):
182.06 WHQL (best so far, tf2 also runs much smoother than before, no difference when it comes to aquaria)
182.05
185.20
181.22 WHQL (worst drivers ever, no difference when it comes to aquaria)
181.20 WHQL (worst drivers ever, no difference when it comes to aquaria)
180.84 (used mainly/only in the demoversion, cant remember for sure)
overall:
crashes with all tested drivers. all the same when it comes to aquaria.
and whql doesnt make a difference when it comes to driver. they are simply approved by microsoft and seem to have been barely tested (awful buggy performance with 181.20 and 181.22) ... so i could care less about beta and whql!
P.S. ill keep the game. if im unable to play it now, i might be able to enjoy it in 2 years. more bufixes, a fresh windows installation and maybe some new computer components...
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i disabled framebuffer effects and steam overlay and i was finally able to play 2h straight without any crashes.
I know it's a comprimise that shouldn't have to be made, but it sounds like you might be able to enjoy the game if you turn both those things off again. Thanks for being patient enough to test all those drivers (I know the whole reboot!reboot!reboot!reboot! thing isn't fun), and thanks for deciding to keep the game. It makes me want to continue trying to help. I'll be interested to hear how it works for your brother.
Another long shot: Since you said the demo "didn't crash as often", I assume it did crash. So something's making it crash, and it's not necessarily Steam. There may be some program somewhere on your computer that is trying to pop up overlays that interact badly with Aquaria's framebuffer effects. This might be anything from Steam to your computer's volume control to certain virus scanners. (Maybe Aero, but I don't know anything about that.) If the full version still crashes with the two things in the above quote disabled, and if you have any patience left, you might try finding overlays in other programs to disable. (Just don't disable a virus scanner completely. Find the overlay option if it has one.)
Sorry if I'm sending you on a wild goose chase here, but I'd be going through all this myself if I had the problem, knowing how good Aquaria is. :) Or if you're tired of testing things, here's to hoping it works in the future!
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I can eliminate one of those possibilities - Aero works fine with Aquaria. :)
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if i can make it work perfectly with testing and reporting, id gladly test until i die^^
none-windows apps running in bg:
firefox 3.1b2
steam
utorrent
gtalk
pidgin
rivatuner
windows enabler
avg free
logitech mouse driver tools
cherry keyboard driver tools
realtek audio driver tools
pentablet apps and driver tools
foobar2000
daemontools
oo defrag
intel raid tool
punkbuster
i often play tf2(which does run without crashes^^) and i always use the steam overlay so it might be annoying, enabling, disabling it all the time... oh joy.
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One of the first things I would suggest is to close some stuff. We're lucky that some programs are a bit more tolerant now than were many back in the DOS and early Windows days, but that's a whole lot of stuff that could be causing you problems. That strikes me as way too much memory-resident clutter to expect almost any game to run right. I'd consider even half that quantity to be kind of excessive.
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ill close everything not needed for playing aquaria next time. also it seems to work on my bros computer. 2h straight gameplay, no crashes. on vista 64bit. same drivers.
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Sometimes it just takes experimentation. Most of the programs probably aren't giving you issues, but all it takes is one. *If* that's the problem, hopefully you can isolate it, but either way it's a good place to start if there isn't anything else obvious to try.
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If its an ATI card, you might have to use older drivers.
Just throwing that out there cause it happened to someone else.
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i have a nvidia graphics card
PC specs:
G80 8800GTS 640MB DDR3 (standard clock)
E6600 @ 3.0GHz
2x 1GB DDR2-667 + 2x 2GB DDR2-1066 @ 6GB DualChannel DD2-667
3x 1TB Western Digital RE3 WD1002FBYS 32MB cache @ RAID5 2TB
Windows Vista Home Premium 64bit SP1 (runs stable, no bluescreens or random crashes)
ill check the game tomorrow again, maybe something mysteriously solved the problem? who knows ill give it a try!