Early Veil Sequence Break (No Beast): Now With Video

[Chibi]

Hopefully. That would make some sections so much easier. 

[Alphasoldier]

It makes me wonder, are there any treasures you're supposed to get by swimming through a current?

I know that there's the spirit form where you go through the big bulb could be something, getting spirit before beast, but further, I wonder if there's more.
Though I can't remember if there's a single big rock in Mithalas.

[Chibi]

The Mithalas pot is the only treasure you can't retrieve without beast form. It's in one of the pagodas before the Spirit Priest(esse)s.

[silverflagon]

The Mithalas pot is the only treasure you can't retrieve without beast form. It's in one of the pagodas before the Spirit Priest(esse)s.

I was going to mention that until I spotted your post, but perhaps if you forget about using the litle cheats to beat the current up to the veil, then to can't get the treasures up there without beast form either..

[See.Blue]

I don't think there's any rocks in Mithalas unfortunately.  Though I've wondered if there aren't some more briar shenanigans to be found that can help with currents (or if you get a perfect launch if it's strong enough).  I actually just began a litmus test speed run (Energy Temple Entrance, 8 minutes) but when I finish up I want to play around and see.

Also, can briar-missiles get you through the hot currents? If so I want to try to plant a briar on the Mithalas throne token and see if I can ride that to the Spirit form boss (I forget if the barrier there only closes once you enter the room or if it spawns closed).  That'd let us get all treasures without beast

[Chibi]

Also, can briar-missiles get you through the hot currents? If so I want to try to plant a briar on the Mithalas throne token and see if I can ride that to the Spirit form boss (I forget if the barrier there only closes once you enter the room or if it spawns closed).  That'd let us get all treasures without beast

I doubt they can - falling into one of the steam jets while clinging on to a rock dislodges Naija's grip, so doing so while on a briar will probably do the same thing. Very interesting idea about the coin though - does it actually work? 

[Alphasoldier]

Like the pearl, the coin cannot be briar'd. Second, Chibi, -I- was talking about Mithalas, Silver about the Veil.

Either way, the only reason I wondered if there were any currents with treasures behind them was because it would maybe be quicker and skip a few backtracks needed to get the necessary things.

[Chibi]

That's the best way to shorten the trip after completing the maps in a strategic order.

[See.Blue]

Either way, the only reason I wondered if there were any currents with treasures behind them was because it would maybe be quicker and skip a few backtracks needed to get the necessary things.

I'm sure there're tricks.  That's the best kind of exploration.  Like in the Kelp Forest, its easily possible to get the Walker Baby treasure without Sun or Spirit form. Just know where the hole is and when you get to the spirit barrier hold on to the right side of the big walker and wall-jump along it's back towards the treasure.  You can even get back out too 

[silverflagon]

I haven't yet used spirit form to get the baby walker, I have been able to slip past the adult one every time using fishform.

[Alphasoldier]

Heh, another thing for Alec to fix then.

[See.Blue]

Heh, another thing for Alec to fix then.

I disagree.  Sequence breaks and little tricks like that make the game so much more fun.  These aren't things that are game-breaking or even game changing, if anything they lend a little additional depth even to the learning-the-ropes process (and besides its always fun to realize you just discovered something extra in the game).  I mean its possible to briar-climb the outside of the Sun temple to jump right to the sun worm but thats neither something an inexperienced player would even think to try or something that really breaks the game and definitely shouldn't be patched. Aquaria's my virtual jungle gym, the more options the better 

[Chibi]

Seconded. Quirks like that really do add depth (pun intended) to the gameplay. It's great fun to experiment in Aquaria. 

[Alphasoldier]

Yeah, but he already has fixed the 'bug' that the walkers can die by beast or Urchin Costume, why not make the entrance smaller, eh?

And I agree with you, I do, but I think Alec will fix it anyway. ^^

[silverflagon]

I like that he's fixed that bug as I hate Li or my pet shooting them, I mean that i's just plain mean so if I have killed the dragons I switch them of when near the walkers