Pirates Of The Caribbean

[Assault]

So as the final chapter (So far) of Pirates Of The Caribbean closes the series. What do you people think?

All around, these movies are just great fun to watch. The acting is fantastic, the characters are great, the art direction is spectacular (Especially Davy Jones), the Cinematography is awesome (See the shot they did of three, before the final fight in the third chapter. Davy Jones in the bucket. Simply an amazing shot) and the world is just great. I really enjoyed this series.

Please make sure you mark spoilers if any.

[Cheamo]

I've only seen the first two. The first one was really good, but mostly just because of Johnny Depp. In general the writeing and the acting I would say was a little sub-par, although the music definitely wasn't too bad. The second just seemed like drawn out rubbish to me. Just my opinion though. I've got no intentions of watching this third installment.

[Xocrates]

The first one was good, but felt that the second one was a rather badly constructed movie with bad acting, poor jokes and weak plot. The first half was completely pointless and Davy Jones did not rise to its full potential.

Watched part 3 yesterday and I far enjoyed it more than second, the story was interesting (although if I'm not mistaken it has a serious case of plot holes), the visuals were amazing and the fights were really entertaining. The acting felt better and the jokes were on average better than the ones from part 2. Chow Yun-Fat's character could have been better used though.

The first one is still the better though.

[shinygerbil]

Are you the same Xocrates from IV's forums?

I really didn't like the second one very much; as you say it was full of holes, had no real direction to it, and the jokes were weak. The third improved on this a bit, but was still mostly just overworked plot device after overworked plot device, and the whole thing still felt very weak. Even though it was much better than the second one, no actions seemed to have any real reason to them apart from "this is necessary to advance the plot".

Shame really.

[xander]

Are you the same Xocrates from IV's forums?

I really didn't like the second one very much; as you say it was full of holes, had no real direction to it, and the jokes were weak. The third improved on this a bit, but was still mostly just overworked plot device after overworked plot device, and the whole thing still felt very weak. Even though it was much better than the second one, no actions seemed to have any real reason to them apart from "this is necessary to advance the plot".

Shame really.

Yes, he is.  He even introduced himself in the "Introduce Yourself" topic.  You just missed it.

As to the movie -- I haven't seen it yet.  I will probably wait for the DVD, and NetFlix it.  The first one was fun, but the sequel sucked donkey balls.  I really don't care if the third one is any good or not -- I will not pay good money to see it in a theater.

xander

[PiSketch]

/\ Agreed.

 I liked the first two for amusing visual gags, but that was really about it.  The first was, of course, better, but the second had some neat bits. 

[shinygerbil]

The awesome thing is, I get to see movies for free, cos I'm a projectionist

That means I don't mind if I've wasted my time seeing a film, because at least I'm not wasting my money


(also xander, I just noticed the avatar! )

[Eileen]

Amazing, all three... Yay! I'm a fan, what can I say?
 
Also I cannot see how having a sword fight on a rolling wheel can be a poor joke... It's just too... Hilarious!

... Maybe I'm just easily amused...

... Probably...

[Alec]

Think I'm going to see it this afternoon with Daisy, I expect it to be a lot of fun.

I really loved the Jack Sparrow shish kabob from the second movie.

[xander]

Also I cannot see how having a sword fight on a rolling wheel can be a poor joke... It's just too... Hilarious!

Actually, the swashbuckling in the movies is one of the things I like least.  It is so poorly done. 

I know, I am picking nits, but think of it this way:  most of us are fairly technically literate.  We see computers portrayed in movies, and most of us roll our eyes and laugh (i.e. "Hey!  I know this!  This is Unix!" from Jurassic Park).  We know what computers can do, and what they look like when they are doing it.  Then we see how they are portrayed in movies, and know that it is just wrong.

I fence.  I have fenced since college (almost 10 years now).  While modern fencing is not meant to be life-or-death, and differs greatly from actual combat, years of training can show you what is possible, and what will get you killed.  Pirates of the Caribbean is way over on one end of the "it will get you killed" spectrum.  It may be pretty, but it is no good in a real fight.  Perhaps if the movies were better, I might be able to suspend disbelief a bit more, but the movies really aren't that good, and the bad swordplay is hard to ignore.

xander

[Alec]

It may be pretty, but it is no good in a real fight.

I think that's why its a movie and not real life.

[xander]

It may be pretty, but it is no good in a real fight.

I think that's why its a movie and not real life.

Oh, of course.  And the computers in movies are not real life either.  It is just difficult to watch something you know being done so poorly.

xander

[Alec]

Depends what the movie is about. If its about the art of sword fighting and it was horribly inaccurate, it might matter.

If its a fantasy action movie about big spectacle, then its preferable to see exciting looking sword fighting.

The Pirates series doesn't give a crap about any kind of real world rules - they betray all laws of common sense, and that's why they're fun to watch.

Just got back from the 3rd movie - it was a lot of fun!

[Toom]

I quite enjoyed the first one, thought the second was kind of weak (augh cinematography so nasty ugh horror), and I got through about twenty minutes of the third one before walking out.

[Alec]

Wow. I hope you guys never play Aquaria. 

"OMG!!!!! A pixel was out of aligment on the second screen so I stopped playing! 0/10!"