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[Xiagan]

Have you been there and tred to find out? If not, do it.

[Gorvin]

It's actually possible to climb all the way up the cliff above that spot using nature form.  No food is required, but it's pretty tough to pull off.











What's up there?  Glitches.








Not quite as bad as the frozen veil though, where you can actually jump off the edge of the map, heh.

[xpsunny]

I've reached that LAZY turtle, he just yarns, what to do with him?

[Alphasoldier]

Bind a rock and drag it to it. That's pretty much all it does. Not everything in this game has a specific use.

[xpsunny]

Please explain it in more details...

[Xiagan]

There are no details. It does nothing, or at least nobody here has found out if it is doing something special...

Gorvin, I was there too but I decided not to fall in the small gap. Were you able to climb out?

[Alphasoldier]

Use the bind spell, the spell to grab stuff in he water, near a rock so that you grab the rock, move towards the turtle whiel still having the rock behind you and the turtle will go away.

[Gorvin]

Gorvin, I was there too but I decided not to fall in the small gap. Were you able to climb out?

Nope.  I think it would be *possible* to climb back out using nature form cactuses, but without being able to see myself offscreen I felt it would have been too much of a pain to bother with after a couple tries.

[inkblob]

Gorvin you rawk. I don't totally get how to do that with Nature form, jump *around* your briar when it's poking out horizontally? do you try and aim it slightly pointing up and jump straight off your lower briar board? I get that much in principle, but then what, you are now to far 'in' to jump to a straight out horizontal briar.  I'm totally down with being all spidey with Nature, just don't get how.  regardless, I bow to your obsessive exploratory glitchyness 

[Gorvin]

Gorvin you rawk. I don't totally get how to do that with Nature form, jump *around* your briar when it's poking out horizontally? do you try and aim it slightly pointing up and jump straight off your lower briar board? I get that much in principle, but then what, you are now to far 'in' to jump to a straight out horizontal briar.  I'm totally down with being all spidey with Nature, just don't get how.  regardless, I bow to your obsessive exploratory glitchyness 

Actually, I didn't fire off the horizontal briars until after I had jumped.  What I did was to jump up off of the first briar, then fire a briar into the wall while I was in mid air and end up landing on top of it.  It had to be timed right so that the seed would land and sprout out after I had passed over the spot it would grow at.

There are two briars in the screenshot because beforehand I landed on the *tip* of a briar higher up, and by clinging on to the tip at an angle, I would have only been able to jump away from the wall.  So I shot 3 more briar seeds, which caused the briar I was on to retract, pulling me in towards the wall and dropping me down to the briars I planted underneath it.

[inkblob]

cool, think I get the premise here. it's like wall jumping, you have to keep the momentum going and everything well timed or it all falls apart! definitly will have to try that out.

[Gorvin]

I just made a recording of it, if anyone cares: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m6B3FbMsxMU

By the way, when I started recording I was getting much shorter jumps off of the briars than usual.  I turned down the recording rate so that it wouldn't affect the game's framerate as much, and was able to get longer distance jumps off of the briars again (but still worse than I normally get).  I'd have to test it out some more to be sure, but it seems that framerate may affect how far you're able to jump off of the briars (having a lower framerate = worse jumps).  It didn't seem to affect jumps off of other objects though.

[Alec]

 Thanks for posting that vid. Its cool to see how people play.

There may be a frame rate dependency issue with the jumping, I'll take a look when I get a chance.

[Glamador]

I tried to do that same trick.  I never really continued on with it though once I realized I was going outside the intended scope of the game, you know?  It's cool how it works, but it would have been nice to see if it lead somewhere super secret.  I guess Alec didn't think of it.

[Gorvin]

I tried to do that same trick.  I never really continued on with it though once I realized I was going outside the intended scope of the game, you know?

For me, that actually made me more motivated to keep trying.  There's something satisfying about knowing you did something the developers didn't think you could do.