Naija sprites

[Lissar]

Do you have any links to the threads in question? Because I really don't know what you're talking about. (help me understand?) We can't really establish any policies unless we specifically know what is offending people and whether or not it makes sense to limit that.

I don't think I can document any at the moment. Possibly some things said in this forum? I'd have to go back and check near the beginning. More, if you have a fantasy or lewd comment to say keep it among a few people or on a forum where fights will not start due to unmarked forums. I don't think you can police this either. It's more of an etiquette that people would follow.

[Eosphoros]

People are always gonna disagree with each other no matter what. If something is particularly lewd or offensive, then I would definitely say something against it. I guess if people are just sharing their own visions, in a respectful way, then it should be tolerated, even if you don't agree with it. I don't think you should let other people's vision diminish your own because yours is just as important as everyone else's.

[Alec]

I think the only thing that can be done is if something offends you in future, you can bring it to my attention so I can get a sense of what you're talking about. I'm still pretty unclear.

Also I'd recommend starting some of your own threads on topics you'd prefer to discuss. That would be a positive way to try to affect the attitudes on the forum.

[Lissar]

It would depend upon the nature of what they are talking about. Sexuality, social issues, religion. Certain things should be kept low key if possible. I'm not about to start a forum labeled "People who fantasize about Naija are bad and here's why." I know that would offend people. There's just certain topics or comments that shouldn't be said, just to respect everyone.

[Eosphoros]

Sexuality, social issues, and religion are definitely bad topics at a family dinner (like meeting your in-laws for the first time) or a tea party. I think if people do it in a respectful way, then we can have a meaningful conversation. The main thing is to keep an open mind, then talking about these things will be a dialogue instead of a rant. The bottom line is, people can still respect each other even though they have different opinions.

[Lissar]

I think the only thing that can be done is if something offends you in future, you can bring it to my attention so I can get a sense of what you're talking about. I'm still pretty unclear.

Also I'd recommend starting some of your own threads on topics you'd prefer to discuss. That would be a positive way to try to affect the attitudes on the forum.

Well, I'm more burnt out at the moment from this discussion. It's easier to just let the forums go as they have, otherwise more fights occur and chaos starts (similar to this thread), and I've already seen those. I know it sounds like I'm giving up and that this whole discussion was for nothing, but I'd rather just forget most of this for now seeing as not much can be done. It's frustrating, but it's hard to show you what I'm not happy with. To keep it easier I'll ask that you don't worry about it for now, and if I find anything that exemplifies what I don't like I'll let you know.

[Alec]

Well, I'm more burnt out at the moment from this discussion. It's easier to just let the forums go as they have, otherwise more fights occur and chaos starts (similar to this thread), and I've already seen those. I know it sounds like I'm giving up and that this whole discussion was for nothing, but I'd rather just forget most of this for now seeing as not much can be done. It's frustrating, but it's hard to show you what I'm not happy with. To keep it easier I'll ask that you don't worry about it for now, and if I find anything that exemplifies what I don't like I'll let you know.

Again, we were just having a rational discussion. It seems that you think discussion are "chaos". If that's the case, you may want to avoid forums altogether as people tend to discuss things on them.

[Lissar]

It was a bit of chaos because people were assuming things. It didn't tone down until the end. For a while I'm sure many people were getting offended and angry. Rational discussions or debates should be level-headed and calmer.

I'm just going to add that this is my opinion, as I'm just used to people not getting quite so, tense?

[Eosphoros]

Lissar, I don't post here a lot. I'm just responding to this thread because I'm female too and I know where you're coming from. It doesn't seem like people were really offended and angry. It's normal for people to be emotional when they're expressing themselves. If it gets out of hand, that's why there are moderators. Discussions will probably be chaotic in the beginning when people don't understand others' points of view yet. I think us girl gamers should engage in more discussions like these even if we don't agree with each other.

[Lissar]

Lissar, I don't post here a lot. I'm just responding to this thread because I'm female too and I know where you're coming from. It doesn't seem like people were really offended and angry. It's normal for people to be emotional when they're expressing themselves. If it gets out of hand, that's why there are moderators. Discussions will probably be chaotic in the beginning when people don't understand others' points of view yet. I think us girl gamers should engage in more discussions like these even if we don't agree with each other.

I'd love to have these discussions in the future, but there are too many instances of people not quite reading posts fully. It's very demanding to type out a feeling into feeble sentences that anyone can characterize. I don't think I did myself any true justice either. More likely I've set myself back, so in this case I'm going to stay low profile, or not post much. It's a little better this way, which is actually okay with me.

[Lissar]

Got one more question, for Alec:

Since this thread went on a tangent, would you just remove the posts that went beyond the topic about Sprites? I don't think it's going to help the Sprite thread at all now, and people may not even post with their ideas. If you think that fair or needed, I'll leave it up to you.

[Alec]

I think this discussion was interesting and civil, so I don't really see the need to remove it.

If you'd like to start some new threads about what you'd like to talk about, go for it.

[inkblob]

wow, this thread went all popcorn when I wasn't looking. to this forum's ( and this game's ) credit, you probably wouldn't be able to discuss Laura's endowments and the implications of on a Tomb Raider forum without being drowned and shouted out by unreceptive gamers.  I could be off base here, but my assumption ( and you should never assume as it makes an ass out of the elder god of UME, destroyer of predispositions ) is that AlphaSoldier made such a considered and quality nude of Naija to protect her from the inevitable smut that will appear ( your nude must be this appealing yet accurate to qualify )  and to also in part realize the male's inherit fantasy.

I'm not plugged into the pulse of the gaming community to the extent that I'd know the demographic makeup for every title out there, but I havn't seen such enthusiasm from girls towards a game, like ever. my gf was switched on by Neverhood, Spyro, and a few really good match 3 games out there ( like Treasures of Montezuma ) but as soon as she saw me playing Aquaria she wouldn't let me continue unless she was in the room. I've since finished the game and she's still interested in the community and developments surrounding it, that's a personal litmus test for this game is clicking with girls on some level.  there is a definite alluring undercurrent with Naija and fantasy is just going to happen.  there's lots of other pots boiling on this forum besides here Lissar,  don't let this one aspect sour the whole forum for you.  I'm curious if Alec or Derek anticipated or are surprised by the interest from girl gamers ( or was it part of your coy plan all along... )

[Alphasoldier]

You #%&#*@ bloody @$&%@& who @#$*%&#* and @#$%*@#$ @#$&.
Naw, just kidding.
I enjoyed reading this conversation and even though it made this topic a bit full, I feel honored that people actually liked what I made. While it could/would be offending to most people. Everyone has fetishes, over hell-i-know-what. Like Alec said, let people have those fetishes, BUT, keep them to yourself unless someone else asks you for it, and when that person asks, answer it to that person in private, not in public. Be rational we're all intelligent beings who can think before acting.
Then about what I made, I like nudity, I adore pretty natural bodies, I despise most supermodels with the huge-a** silicons. And yes, even though I shouldn't say it, nudity, from whatever sort, most of the time arouses me. But I'm a f*cked up guy and that's just who I am. ( Don't try me telling otherwise. =p ) I was bad enough to make this mod, but I did say that I WILL remove it when people don't want it on here anymore. It's their right just as big as mine, and I'm alone so that would take only 2 people unless there are other people who demand it stays on here, which I doubt anyone will. I also labeled it for the people who could be offended by it. It's not like I made a post with: "New pretty costume of Naija, check it out.", that would just be wrong.

So finally thank you very much for not throwing me off a cliff and actually liking my work, I really appreciate it while I shouldn't even make that stuff seeing I'm only 17 and such. Yes, big gasp. :O

Now if you would like to continue this Discussion please make an other topic for it, call it "Discussions" or something, I'd love to post in it, in the meanwhile keep this topic for sprites, kay?

And for finally to complete this post, I publish Zero Suit Naija. Not offending to anyone unless you are offended by crossing games.
Zero Suit Naija
EDIT: Once again, if there's anything wrong or anything that could be better about the sprite and I mean anything, please PM me or talk to me on the IRC
EDIT2: To make it more clear I increased font, k?
And if you don't know what the Zero Suit is, I suggest you to play every Metroid game.

P.S. I was working on this sprite a while ago and will start working on the Li sprite this week further, seeing I'm going to bowl today and work fulltime.
P.P.S I love adding colors to my posts... It's so... Colorfull!

[Xiagan]

wow, this thread went all popcorn when I wasn't looking.

Couldn't have said this better!

I think this discussion was interesting and civil, so I don't really see the need to remove it.

Yeah, removing is the wrong way, but you may think about splitting the discussion in an extra thread?

There's not much to add from my point of view, but swimming nude is so much more enjoyable (doesn't matter if you are male or female), if you haven't done it, you should totally try it one day. I'm glad that Naija (and soon Li) has the possibility to do so now too.

I highly appreciate how natural Alphasoldiers version is and really don't see anyone using it for dirty fanatsies. There is a good deal of (too) easy accessable p0rn out in the web and anybody who needs something to fuel his (or her) fantasies will find enough stuff which is probably better suited for it than Naija.