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Re: The ending, final boss, etc. [Obviously spoilers]
« Reply #90 on: December 24, 2007, 01:38:37 pm »
I first thought that the black-haired girl was an adult Naija, but then I realized that Naija has white hair and she's more than likely fully grown at the start of the game. Why is her daughter so much taller than her, though? :P Also, what did The Creator mean when he said Naija loved a symbol of chaos, obviously referring to Li?
I think it's a boding future omen thing. Humans are destroying the planet in real life, in this game the kid probably realised that before he "died" and now hates humans.

And some kids are tallen than their parents. It's just what happens :).

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Re: The ending, final boss, etc. [Obviously spoilers]
« Reply #91 on: December 30, 2007, 06:31:07 am »
My thought on the "symbol of chaos" comment:  Li was from outside of Eric's creations, outside of his ordered world.  He would fear anyone or thing from the surface, as it would serve as a reminder that he is not "The Creator," but just a lonely little boy.

As for what gave Eric his powers, remember those falling rocks that took down the flying city?  Did anyone else think they looked like they were covered in red crystals?  I don't have a good screen capture utility, but if someone could post a screen shot, that would be interesting.  And if the red crystals did fall from the sky, where did the blue crystals come from?

I am overjoyed at the prospect of a sequel, and hope it becomes a reality!

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« Reply #92 on: January 01, 2008, 11:08:00 am »
As for what gave Eric his powers, remember those falling rocks that took down the flying city?  Did anyone else think they looked like they were covered in red crystals?  I don't have a good screen capture utility, but if someone could post a screen shot, that would be interesting.  And if the red crystals did fall from the sky, where did the blue crystals come from?
what? something took down the flying city? I only saw a flying city in the ending, and it didn't look like it was going down.

I was also confused at the relationship between the ghost boy and The Creator. I didn't understand how much of that speech at the end was the boy, and how much was The Creator. If The Creator created all the races, inspired by a song from his mother as he was a human child, then that means that he didn't create even all life on that planet; just the ones in the water.
And if he created all those races, then the human civilization at least from the sunken city, is very old.

Li isn't a survivor of the flying city from the intro, however. That city was destroyed and the only survivor was the boy: Eric.
Uh, the sunken city used to be a human city above water, and Li is a human. They share icons for that very reason, to show that the sunken city was once a human city.
See, this confuses me. They're both human. Alec suggest that a boy named Eric (which everyone is assuming is the ghost boy, although I haven't heard it stated anywhere) is the only survivor of the flying city. Why is he in the sunken city then? The sunken city is then somehow related to the flying city?
Also, I don't remember a flying city in the intro; only in the ending.
Li is a total mystery. He's human, but not from the flying city. I guess he could be from... a city on the surface, and still part of the same race as the ghost boy. (used to be) He does have supplies that have the same logo as the sunken city. So perhaps all the human cities on the surface, in the air, and under the water have the same logo...

anyways... seeing a flying city and a flying boat and suggestion of a sequel, my immediate reaction was we're going to get flying forms. I wonder if the engine needs to be rewritten/tweaked for that, or if it can just be scripted right in. ;>
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Re: The ending, final boss, etc. [Obviously spoilers]
« Reply #93 on: January 01, 2008, 11:13:41 am »
..the sunken city IS the flying city, we guess? Wouldn't that make sense?

Also you see the intro the first time you play, but if you missed it click the blue crystal on the title screen.

The Creator is just what the boy called himself when he learned to create things due to the unnamed spirit that inhabits him once he "dies". He doesn't give an age, but I'd guess it's been quite a while since the flying city was smashed during the intro.

So yeah, watch the intro, it'd help you understand a lot.

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Re: The ending, final boss, etc. [Obviously spoilers]
« Reply #94 on: January 01, 2008, 11:41:52 am »
I don't think the sunken City is the city, which was destroyed in the intro, although they can be somewhat familiar. If you look a bit more at the ruins in the sunken, you'll see they have been built on that exact place where they are standing (all the pipes and concrete in the background - to much as for the flying city, and they are conected with the ground). I think this city is somewhat related to all the rest of  human cities and I think it was rather destroyed by a flood. I also believe Li is somekind of a scientist or a adventurer (that's why he was so curious about the Sunken City when he found it with Naija). Propably he's searching for something from the human past. This also fits him and all of humanity well as a "symbol of Chaos" because it could tell us that humans had done something tragic in the past and the planet's surface changed. And we can also suppose, that 1) Li got to the Veil to search for Naija 2) He was also looking for the Sunken City or something related to it. But still, we don't know the exact background of the game so it's hard to guess anything  ???

These are my thoughts about the story. What do you think about this?

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« Reply #95 on: January 01, 2008, 05:33:45 pm »
Just a hint: The roman Empire's symbol was the eagle.
 Both Li's stuff, the sunken city and the endgame's flying boat parts share the same symbol. Could it simply be that the eagle is a sign of providence/government?

As for Mia, I am shocked at the ease she can control Naija. Just remove conciousness like that.

What I would like to know is what happened in the end? Did the races get restored?

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« Reply #96 on: January 01, 2008, 07:06:22 pm »
From what I understood, the spirits that you freed in the body came back to life once you defeated the creator. I assume that the revived spirits somehow managed to restore their respective races.

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« Reply #97 on: January 01, 2008, 08:24:58 pm »
I'm pretty sure that the Sunken City is the floating city from the intro.  It makes sense, and they do share a fountain.

But then again, we see the floating city in the background during the ending!  Perhaps it's another flying city, maybe the one that Li hails from?

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« Reply #98 on: January 01, 2008, 08:28:17 pm »
Well, I for one is rather depressed by the ending. I was hoping that after all that fighting and strife Naija would finally be happy and not ripped away like that.

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« Reply #99 on: January 01, 2008, 08:30:33 pm »
From what I understood, the spirits that you freed in the body came back to life once you defeated the creator. I assume that the revived spirits somehow managed to restore their respective races.

Obviously, it could happen. But We can't say that, because they were just single persons and new beings don't come from the air, you know what I mean  ;). So I wouldn't say the mithalans and crotite or druniads could revive their races, and again we don't know anything about those characters. It's also hard to title  the druniads as a "race", because they are more likely to be some sort of creatures. But it's hard to say anything about them,  and especially about the messengers - they were really a mysterious race. We have the last crotite warrior, prince Drask, three messengers and a druniad. I think it rather has an emotional aspect at the end of the game, than a real meaning. Naija freed them, so now they will live once again. But what they will do, will be a mystery.

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Well, I for one is rather depressed by the ending. I was hoping that after all that fighting and strife Naija would finally be happy and not ripped away like that.

Yeah, I agree with that and it rather beats us all, fellow Aquaria players :(

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« Reply #100 on: January 01, 2008, 08:37:26 pm »
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Obviously, it could happen. But We can't say that, because they were just single persons and new beings don't come from the air, you know what I mean  Wink. So I wouldn't say the mithalans and crotite or druniads could revive their races, and again we don't know anything about those characters. It's also hard to title  the druniads as a "race", because they are more likely to be some sort of creatures. But it's hard to say anything about them,  and especially about the messengers - they were really a mysterious race. We have the last crotite warrior, prince Drask, three messengers and a druniad. I think it rather has an emotional aspect at the end of the game, than a real meaning. Naija freed them, so now they will live once again. But what they will do, will be a mystery.

Or the Creator's last act was to restore them?


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Re: The ending, final boss, etc. [Obviously spoilers]
« Reply #101 on: January 01, 2008, 09:22:31 pm »
I was thinking that the Creator's last act was to bring back all of his destroyed creations, which makes me wonder if the respective Gods were brought back as well.  We did see several of each race, except for the Prince's people, as we only see him.  But there is that black-haired girl....

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Re: The ending, final boss, etc. [Obviously spoilers]
« Reply #102 on: January 01, 2008, 09:34:03 pm »
I was thinking that the Creator's last act was to bring back all of his destroyed creations, which makes me wonder if the respective Gods were brought back as well.  We did see several of each race, except for the Prince's people, as we only see him.

For sure it's also possible.

But there is that black-haired girl....

Are you trying to mention something?  :D

Obviously, there can be a lot of propable expectations on how about the story would go after the end of game. We could mention them all forever, but the real truth can only lie in the heads of game creators. If there will be a sequel we will know it, believe me  ;) therefore I wouldn't want to spoil the upcoming fun...

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Re: The ending, final boss, etc. [Obviously spoilers]
« Reply #103 on: January 01, 2008, 10:01:54 pm »
which makes me wonder if the respective Gods were brought back as well.

We see the energy temple boss  dead during that cinematic, so I find that doubtful.

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« Reply #104 on: January 01, 2008, 10:13:36 pm »
Another question would be how much of the living creatures (and the ones that lived) of Aquaria the creator made with his own powers.

Perhaps he just created the thirteen we see displayed before his chamber (where you fight his first and second form). And the thirteen used their powers to create the creatures of Aquaria.