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Re: The ending, final boss, etc. [Obviously spoilers]
« Reply #30 on: December 15, 2007, 05:25:11 pm »
I don't know I found nature form rather useful for blocking off enemies and so on. To be honest the form that I found mos pointless was spirit form. It's only use was to get past steam. While I guess it was required that there was another blocking method that needed a boss fight to get so that the game's structure would work out nicely it just would have been nice if it had had some other kind of use. Maybe if it had allowed you to see extra bits of narrative through the actions of spirits in certain areas while in the form (a bit like Scrying in Clive Barker's Undying) or something along those lines it would have felt a tad less tacked on.

Yeah, I'm with you on that one.  Also, it would've been awesome if you could "materialize" inside certain creatures to temporarily possess them and fight as them or act out story plot points with them.
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Re: The ending, final boss, etc. [Obviously spoilers]
« Reply #31 on: December 15, 2007, 05:42:48 pm »
Spirit Form has another function that I don't think anyone has discovered yet.  ::)

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Re: The ending, final boss, etc. [Obviously spoilers]
« Reply #32 on: December 15, 2007, 05:55:25 pm »
I do like fighting God stories, though, and so far this is the only game where it is actually feasible to fight God and win, so kudos on that.
I have to point it out (again). There is Eternal Daughter, a freeware game from Derek Yu (too) which is harder and very good too. Aand you can fight Gods again. Lucky you. ;)
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Re: The ending, final boss, etc. [Obviously spoilers]
« Reply #33 on: December 15, 2007, 05:59:15 pm »
Spirit Form has another function that I don't think anyone has discovered yet.  ::)

Anything else than passing steam or take a "dejavu-look"?

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Re: The ending, final boss, etc. [Obviously spoilers]
« Reply #34 on: December 15, 2007, 06:09:35 pm »
I was curious if you could grab items while in Spirit form.  Tried it but it doesn't work.  However, I did discover that you still take damage from projectiles while in that form which sucks !

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Re: The ending, final boss, etc. [Obviously spoilers]
« Reply #35 on: December 15, 2007, 06:14:35 pm »
Spirit Form has another function that I don't think anyone has discovered yet.  ::)
If its so secret that noone used it and still completed the game maybe its not so important
We aren't talking about importance. We are talking about the wish to have all treasures, all 13 sites of recipes, all secret rooms found, etc... You can beat the game and miss out half of the interesting stuff (like pets or recipes)
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Re: The ending, final boss, etc. [Obviously spoilers]
« Reply #36 on: December 15, 2007, 06:17:27 pm »
I noticed that if you use it in the Seahorse race you see seahorses instead of balls of light racing around the track. So my guess is that there are places you can use it to see spirits - probably the rooms where you find the memories or some of the houses in Mithalis. Or maybe not :)

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Re: The ending, final boss, etc. [Obviously spoilers]
« Reply #37 on: December 15, 2007, 06:38:29 pm »
I noticed that if you use it in the Seahorse race you see seahorses instead of balls of light racing around the track. So my guess is that there are places you can use it to see spirits - probably the rooms where you find the memories or some of the houses in Mithalis. Or maybe not :)

That's another thing... and that's really the only area where its used so far. I'd like to add more ghosts and things to the game if we get time.

But yeah, there's another gameplay function to spirit form, and a couple bosses that are made super easy by it.  ^-^

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Re: The ending, final boss, etc. [Obviously spoilers]
« Reply #38 on: December 15, 2007, 06:40:25 pm »
Aleeeec, Not fair, can you take over bodies or something?
Also to note that spirit form is pretty much the last form you get so there aren't many bosses left.
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Re: The ending, final boss, etc. [Obviously spoilers]
« Reply #39 on: December 15, 2007, 06:41:29 pm »
It doesn't have to be the last form that you get.

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Re: The ending, final boss, etc. [Obviously spoilers]
« Reply #40 on: December 15, 2007, 09:10:32 pm »
I've got spirit form very early in the game, and found no particular use against bosses, maybe i should start a new game !

But i've found an annoying bug with it : It may freeze the game when trying to ride an Ancient Turtle in Spirit Form. 1h playtime lost :(

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« Reply #41 on: December 15, 2007, 09:14:49 pm »
I just fixed that one 2 minutes ago, but yeah... that sucks. :'( My apologies.

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Re: The ending, final boss, etc. [Obviously spoilers]
« Reply #42 on: December 15, 2007, 09:43:46 pm »
Now you've gone and tempted me to start a new game, get spirit form early and see if  I  can figure out what else it can do.

Damn it I have exams to revise for!

Although it's good to hear it has more use, I guess it's just another of the less obvious things in the game that you have to have a think about to discover (or just do it by accident!).

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Re: The ending, final boss, etc. [Obviously spoilers]
« Reply #43 on: December 15, 2007, 10:00:49 pm »
Wanna give us a hint which bosses are easier and which not? :)
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Re: The ending, final boss, etc. [Obviously spoilers]
« Reply #44 on: December 16, 2007, 12:01:45 am »
hey guys, I have a bug or something.

I did find all 3 memories and visited all 3 of them again just in case i forgot one and i'm pretty sure i have all of them. the problem is that I didn't get the "secret" ending even if I have them all. Naija is saying that I have to go back and try again, as I were too focused on just the facts and not the memories of her childhood

but I do have all of them... or am I missing something else?