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Offline Kal

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Tablet support?
« on: December 10, 2007, 03:17:51 am »
Hey, I've been trying the demo on my new shiny tablet laptop, and...needless to say, it doesn't work.  It's impossible to get the mouse to move beyond the border of the screen, in full size or windowed, 800 or 1024 resolution.  I've been forced to use...the knob.

I can year your shrieks of horror from across the continent.

So yeah.  Is there support for tablets in the works or not?

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Re: Tablet support?
« Reply #1 on: December 12, 2007, 08:55:06 pm »
Tablet PC support would be really great for this game. It would be even more elegant to play the game with the stylus than with the mouse.

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« Reply #2 on: December 12, 2007, 11:19:11 pm »
Yeah, when I try it, the cursor always stays at the edges.  I don't know why, it should work just like a mouse... :(


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« Reply #3 on: December 12, 2007, 11:21:05 pm »
Yeah, when I try it, the cursor always stays at the edges.  I don't know why, it should work just like a mouse... :(

Yeah, it should. I remember trying it with Derek's tablet once.

Hrm.... If I had my own tablet I could try it out, but I don't atm.

Might have something to do with locking the cursor to the window or sommat?

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Re: Tablet support?
« Reply #4 on: December 13, 2007, 10:11:59 am »
Hmm, I havn't bothered to try with my tablet, but if/when I do I'll let you know how it goes. Although I'm guessing that my tablet is nothing special and wont work either. I can see the mouse-gesture based gaming being cool on stylus. :)
So let us know if you figure something out.
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« Reply #5 on: December 16, 2007, 03:55:20 am »
I think the only function you can't do with a tablet is look, which I don't have a third mouse button so it doesn't matter.  For the record, I did try playing with a keyboard nub.

It went...as expected, nothing more. *shudder*

Wait, if Derek has a tablet, could he test it out?  I mean, it's not a glaring issue that must be resolved immediately, but it's an inconvenience.

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« Reply #6 on: January 04, 2008, 08:18:49 pm »
Yeah, it has everything to do with locking the cursor to the window.  The cool thing about a tablet is how "this point on the tablet is always this point on the screen" which makes it really easy/natural to snap the cursor around.  (well, at least for those of us who grew up holding pens and pencils in school...)  However, it also means the tablet keeps telling the game "cursor is over here"  making the game think "oh, the person must have moved the cursor all the way from the locked position to there.  Now I'll re-center it" after which the tablet again says "the cursor is over here" and the cycle repeats, making the game register HUGE cursor movement when you're actually holding the stylus in one place.

You can tell your tablet to use relative tracking for the stylus, (or use the mouse, which generally tracks that way,) but then you lose the thing that makes it so great in the first place.  So with most games you usually just end up putting away the tablet.


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« Reply #7 on: January 04, 2008, 09:01:11 pm »
Tablet controls would be quite identical like in Wii, just with a simple difference then you don't point with controls but with a pen. The tablet reasembles screen size, so it's very convinient and natural way to control a mouse pointer with the pen, although some people might have problems with using it, but it's a matter of a habit  :)

I didn't tried to play Aquaria with my tablet, but now I'll try  ;) Maybe it will work pretty well...

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« Reply #8 on: January 09, 2008, 03:57:39 am »
actually, the point is that I have a tablet PC, so I can't exactly put it away for the game, but I can at least still use my mouse.

IceD, I would be very happy if you found a way to get it to work with tablet controls.  I have no clue where to even look, so...

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« Reply #9 on: January 11, 2008, 07:42:05 am »
Yeah, I tried with my tablet while I was on holiday in Australia. everything works the same but the curser is always stuck to the outside edge of the window (I was playing in windowed with all the settings on the lowest so my tablet could run the game reasonably ;) )
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« Reply #10 on: January 11, 2008, 03:51:45 pm »
Wow, I had the SAME problem when I first ran the game, but I found out how to fix it.  The pen actually works pretty good.   

Not sure what type of tablet/tabPC you guys have, but I have a Wacom pen tablet.  So I'm guessing that some variation of this should work for other pen tablets too.  If you go into the Wacom Tablet Properties, or the setup menu for your tablet, you should see a section for setting the "Mapping" of your tablet.  If you make sure that the Mode is set to "Mouse" and not "Pen", then everything should start working.  This fixes the arrow being stuck in the corner thingy.  Heh, I guess the one-to-one point mapping setting on the tablet throws things off a little bit.  Hope this helps! 

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« Reply #11 on: January 12, 2008, 07:11:26 am »
Wow, I had the SAME problem when I first ran the game, but I found out how to fix it.  The pen actually works pretty good.   

Not sure what type of tablet/tabPC you guys have, but I have a Wacom pen tablet.  So I'm guessing that some variation of this should work for other pen tablets too.  If you go into the Wacom Tablet Properties, or the setup menu for your tablet, you should see a section for setting the "Mapping" of your tablet.  If you make sure that the Mode is set to "Mouse" and not "Pen", then everything should start working.  This fixes the arrow being stuck in the corner thingy.  Heh, I guess the one-to-one point mapping setting on the tablet throws things off a little bit.  Hope this helps! 

A YouTube video of playing the game with a tablet would be sweet.  ^-^

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« Reply #12 on: January 15, 2008, 03:57:45 pm »
I imagine boss battles may require something additional, cause right clicks with a tablet pen can be a little irritating (and you can't right click and left click at the same time, we'd have to stand still while charging).  Everything else seems natural for a tablet, like a DS with a bigger screen.

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« Reply #13 on: January 15, 2008, 04:24:42 pm »
*late post alert*
COOL
Kal:
And don't forget about changing to Naija's original form by right clicking and tapping the tablet (left click) at the same time.  argg!

Alec:
Thought I'd have the video to post by today, but it's coming out weird.  I think I'll just have to borrow a usb cam, and do a little demo that way.

For now, I'm just posting a couple of screenshots of the wacom tablet setup menus.  These should help explain things a little bit more.  The first option screen shows what I meant by the tablet to screen mapping.  The ENTIRE tablet drawing area is mapped to your computer screen.  When you touch the upper left part of the tablet, the mouse pointer appears on the upper left of your screen, etc, etc.  The second option screen makes the pen tab act like  a regular mouse.  I'll try to have a vid up on YouTube verrry soonish, guys.....


This option maps the pen tablet drawing area to the computer screen:



This option makes the pen act like a regular mouse (this is the good option  8) ):

Offline Kal

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« Reply #14 on: January 16, 2008, 03:30:09 pm »
I don't think I have that menu...I have a tablet PC, so the touch screen is...well, the monitor, and I don't think it would normally need to change the mapping of the monitor to itself.   :)  I'm curious, though, how do you right click with a Wacom tablet?