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Offline d3sphil

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Ugh... Sometimes, It's just annoying.
« on: July 20, 2008, 05:51:52 am »
So, I bought this game the day it came out. I love Derek and Alec =D.
Played  about 12 hours, but eventually got stuck all over the place. I was just always msising a form. And I only had like 4 of them.

So, I stopped playing. And now, about 6 months later, I started again, since I thought I should really finish the thing.
But, I started over, because before I had just really messed things up. The opened'ness of hte game is nice... but also really really pisses you off sometimes.

I decided to go "down" once at the open waters, since last time I went "up" and totaly got stuck after getting one or two forms.
I start going down, and find myself around the Abyss. I remember this place, it was dark and holy-crap-scary. I got stuck there last time. But this time it was a lot easier to make it through the Abyss. I'm cruising along, and I can totaly make it through everything; Nothing is stopping me from going there. Aparently, you don't even need beast form to get there. Then I find myself against a giant jelly-fish. All I have is Energy Form. Well, I try really hard, I have A TON of food. But you can't kill the jelly spawns.

AWeSOME. There we have it. I put 2.5 hours into the game to get somewhere that is actually impossible for me to do anything in...
Seriously.. I mean, it's just a bit discouraging and enfuriating. Now, where should I go next? Clearly, just back-track through the Abyss (NOT FUN) to get back somewhere else... Ugh.. -_-.

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Re: Ugh... Sometimes, It's just annoying.
« Reply #1 on: July 20, 2008, 06:14:28 am »
We've added some stuff into 1.1.0 that makes it more clear what the easier paths are so that people won't accidentally end up in the harder areas.

If you want a hand, you can send me your save file and I can warp you somewhere that's easier to get to. :)

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« Reply #2 on: July 20, 2008, 08:00:12 am »
More importantly, you could just release the patch.  That would fix everything.  But I'm a patient guy...WHERE'S THAT PATCH!

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Re: Ugh... Sometimes, It's just annoying.
« Reply #3 on: July 20, 2008, 08:15:16 am »
Alright. My post was a bit harsh. I wrote that right after dying.

What follows is random thoughts on games. But before that, I want to say thanks to Alec for being nothing but amazing. Not only did you do an amazing programing job (I'm a programmer too, sort of), but your music is amazing, and you're customer support is phenomenal. I don't know how you do it. So, a MILLION thanks to you!

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I love the game; the art is amazing, and the music is great. I'm glad that the game-play has been tweaked a bit to guide people in the "right" way. That's great =D.

I'm a huge fan of indie games since they are a breath of fresh air amongst the boring old mainstreaming games. I visit tigersauce all the time (thanks Derek for this great site). The problem I have found is that they have a tendency of getting really hard, really fast. This really doesn't have much to do with Aquaria; but the same thing happened with Everyday Shooter for me.. Put about 15 hours in and then couldn't play it anymore because I just wanted to throw my computer off the roof after dying 3 times in a row in 10 seconds. But, I suppose this is all part of the growth of the community. I should just play "You have to burn the rope" some more. That makes me so happy =D.

All that said, thanks for the offer. I'm actually not too far from a turtle (I think) to the home area. What would be great is if I had a bit of direction to where to go next: towards the surface, etc... From that I can do the rest. Oh, and is it possible to use the L/R Triggers on the 360 controller? I can't seem to map them.

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« Reply #4 on: July 20, 2008, 05:32:07 pm »
Hey, I emailed you a new save file.

Here's what the new world map beacon system looks like:



The hud on the lower right lights up when you pass a beacon point, then you can look for the beacon on the world map.

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Re: Ugh... Sometimes, It's just annoying.
« Reply #5 on: July 21, 2008, 01:01:37 am »
That looks really nice Alec, and wide screen I see? lol I've just got this boring old monitor even if the screen is large, perhaps one day I'll get one of those who knows :D


I do hope it's not embarassing for you and Derek having someone my age loving your game so much, if it is but you won't stop me playing sorry  :P lol
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« Reply #6 on: July 22, 2008, 06:55:00 am »
Lol, waypoint system... Hmm. Well, as long as it helps some people enjoy the game more I can't find a problem with it. Still, I like how going anywhere was just accepted, and you had to choose and find the way that was easiest.  (I went to kelp forest before Mithalas for example).
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« Reply #7 on: July 22, 2008, 07:31:51 am »
I don't think it's a checkpoint system...could you explain that a little more Alec?  What's the beacon for?  Can you teleport right to becons?  'Cus that takes some of the fun out of it...

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« Reply #8 on: July 22, 2008, 07:37:43 am »
It's just a marker that implies that there's something interesting there.

It doesn't mean you have to go there, and its not a warp point.

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« Reply #9 on: July 23, 2008, 01:16:08 am »
Will the new game area be different Alec, only if it's the same layout some of the fun will be lost,  though I can understand why some of it's got to be used.
How's it coming along is there any chance of it being finished soon?
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« Reply #10 on: July 23, 2008, 04:58:08 am »
Will the new game area be different Alec, only if it's the same layout some of the fun will be lost,  though I can understand why some of it's got to be used.

What?

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« Reply #11 on: July 23, 2008, 07:44:01 am »
There is no new game Silver..
At least not yet! :D

This is just a patch, so the world isn't going to change much, if at all.

For the sequal that is a good question though. Any ideas yet Alec?
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« Reply #12 on: July 23, 2008, 03:23:43 pm »
Will the new game area be different Alec, only if it's the same layout some of the fun will be lost,  though I can understand why some of it's got to be used.

What?

I mean the areas like the Abys etc. or will it all be set in a toatally different area and only touching on the present areas? Sorry for being so obscure ::)
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« Reply #13 on: July 23, 2008, 03:33:14 pm »
Are you talking about Aquaria 2?

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« Reply #14 on: July 23, 2008, 05:45:15 pm »
There's no new area, no layouts are changing, the beacon system is just a way to show you where you're going next to remove some of the "needless wandering" some people experienced.  It's just a little added direction.  I don't understand what you're asking Silver.

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