Bit Blot Forum
Aquaria => Modding => Topic started by: Sfiera on December 13, 2007, 07:46:57 am
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Here's one: http://aquaria.sfiera.net/ (http://aquaria.sfiera.net/)
I actually should have spent this time studying for an exam, so I've only put in the minimal amount of effort at the moment. On the plate for the future are:
- A better skin, or at least a logo
- Some extensions, possibly
ASHighlight (http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:ASHighlight) for lua
- Some standard templates
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Enable uploading
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Tweak user settings (no anonymous)
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Looks good and it's fast, so I'm starting to move data over there; if Alec ultimately makes his own wiki it should be a MediaWiki so anything can be readily ported (I think there's even an import function in MediaWiki). Some tweaks I think you should do: disable anonymous editing. MediaWikis are targeted by spambots which edit pages and discussions and fills them in with really poorly-formatted spam and garbage; Wikipedia can handle that because it's got hundreds of eyes on each page all the time. Also, please enable uploading so that I can put my tileset pictures up.
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Ah handy, considering if eventually the big list of commands, parameters, entities and what not leaks onto this forum, it'll take more than a sticky to keep track of it all.
Also be a good place to put various tutorials people have done, just to act as a Modder's resource.
But yeah, some kind of Register Login system would be handy
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Uploads enabled; task list updated
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Nice work!
BTW would it be easy to migrate this to bit-blot.com at some point?
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I'm actually installing a wiki atm for a work-related thing. I think it *should* be all just in the database, right? I imagine since the software is really involved it'll probably have some kind of export too =P
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Alec: should be minimal trouble. I think you would need a database dump (easy enough) and some tweaking to LocalSettings.php to reflect the new url, but that's it.
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Also, anonymous editing disabled, and source highlighting support added. For lua code, that means
<source lang="lua">
if works(this)
puts "Sweet!"
end
</source>
(I don't recall if that's correct lua code, I'm a bit rusty and have also never actually written anything in it :))
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Nice! This is awesome. I sticky it. ;D
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A (mostly) copy of the Bit Blot guide is now on the wiki (http://aquaria.sfiera.net/wiki/Modding_Guide). The exception is the page on Lua, which I'm not sure how to deal with duplication of information.
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Whew, and a Aquarian skin (http://aquaria.sfiera.net/w/index.php?title=Main_Page&useskin=aquaria). It's not quite ready to be put in as the default, but it's looking nice (and familiar? :))
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Excellent initiative, looks great.
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Was trying to access the Aquaria Wiki today and noticed it's not there anymore. Did the Wiki get copied over to bit-blot? or is there someway we can get it back online? Would be helpful.
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It appears to go to a sfiera.net main page, which has a link to the wiki (which of course takes you back to the main page again).
It wasn't complete, but it sure was a useful wiki resourse. Good spotting TB, it was there last I looked (when I made the battle mod).
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I wonder if the address has been hijacked or hacked?
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Nope, Sfiera was the member who hosted it.
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Nope, Sfiera was the member who hosted it.
That doesn't mean that someone hasn't hacked into it to send you some where else instead of to the wiki... But perhaps you need to find the pages you can rebuild it? They don't get really lost unless you try searching for something that is really years old, try this link http://www.archive.org/web/web.php (http://www.archive.org/web/web.php)
It's a search engine for old internet sites and pages :)
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So is this dead, then? Does a new one need to be started?
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If a new one is started, I can try to design a logo and such.
But I do think a new wiki would be very helpful: it would be a lot easier to find info if all the hints and maps were in one place.
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This came up over in the Ambrosia forums. I'd be happy to host a wiki if the bandwidth requirements aren't too high*. However, before I go installing wiki software, I'd love to have input as to which package to use; I don't have much experience with any of them, so if the community has any preferences I'll take them into account.
* My host, nearlyfreespeach.net, charges only for resources actually used. This arrangement is great for my little blog that I hardly post to, but if I put something high-traffic up I may not be able to afford the bill. I currently pay $1/GB, and I think I can afford a gig or two per month (which I really think should be plenty), but much more and my poor college student budget will hunt me down and smack me upside the head. ;)
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Why not use a blog instead, they are free and you can have 2 or 3 running side by side so that not all information is on one blog? I have this Blog and so far I like this host as there is very little interference and almost zero requests for friendships lol
http://salties20.blogspot.com/ (http://salties20.blogspot.com/)
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Happy New Year everyone!
I've got some good news and some bad news. The good news are that I have extracted the wiki pages from archive.org and put them into a temporary local wiki installation (I used dokuwiki instead of MediaWiki which was used for the original, but at least the data is in an easily convertible format again). The bad news is that all of the tile documentation and most of the Lua function documentation is missing from archive.org. Especially the latter will take some serious work to recreate. Luckily I've found a local backup of the function documentation, although it would take some time to get this into wiki format and contains only very brief information on each function.
I have written a PM to Sfiera hoping that he might put the wiki into working order again or that he at least has a backup of the wiki data.
Below is a list of the wiki pages. The ones not present on archive.org are prefixed with an asterisk ("'*").
Category: File Formats
*Entity Groups File Format
*List of Animal Tiles
*List of Avatar Functions
*List of Background Tiles
*List of Beam Functions
*List of Bone Functions
*List of Bone Tiles
List of Broken Entities
*List of Camera Functions
List of Collectibles
List of Creature Entities
*List of Darkness Tiles
*List of Deprecated Functions
List of Enemy Entities
List of Entities
*List of Entity Functions
*List of Entity Tiles
List of Functions
*List of GUI Tiles
*List of Glow Tiles
*List of Manufactured Tiles
*List of Map Functions
*List of Miscellaneous Tiles
*List of Node Functions
List of Object Entities
*List of Particle Tiles
*List of Plant Tiles
*List of Quad Functions
*List of Rock Tiles
List of Scenery
List of Shot Functions
*List of Special Tiles
*List of Spike Tiles
*List of Surface Tiles
List of Tiles
*List of Uncategorized Functions
*List of Vector Functions
*List of Wall Tiles
*List of Web Functions
Main Page
*Map File Format
Modding Guide
Modding Guide: Animation Editor
Modding Guide: Editing Graphics, Sound, and Music
Modding Guide: Entities
Modding Guide: Installing and Playing Mods
Modding Guide: Level Editor
Modding Guide: Maps
Modding Guide: Mod Community
Modding Guide: Nodes
*Tileset File Format
Title Screen Tutorial
Tutorials
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You can get with me some time if you like. I have EVERY resource from the wiki. ALL OF IT.
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Couldn't this info be hosted at the existing Aquaria wiki (http://strategywiki.org/wiki/Aquaria)?
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Lol, seems as if we forgot the moving from sfiera to strategywiki :D
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Hmm, I don't seem to remember anything about that move.. xD
But great find Robert! :D Does this one have everything the old one did?
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The scope of StrategyWiki is strategy guides and walkthroughs. I'm not so sure that it is an appropriate place for modding information. If we're unlucky, someone from their staff might just delete the modding pages, so I'm in favor of a safer solution.
Hiro: The Aquria pages on StrategyWiki and Sfiera's wiki have no common content.
I also got a reply from Sfiera:
I recently wiped my server and started building it again from scratch. I do have all the data backed up, but was not planning on reinstalling PHP, meaning I could not host a MediaWiki. That does not preclude me from setting up an alternate type of wiki; if no one wants to host a MediaWiki I can try that.
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Yeah, I was totally unaware of this "move", but if it is true that the content isn't the same then I wouldn't call it a move at all.
I definitely would find it nice if there was a safer, and better place for the resources for the modding community,... although I suppose it could be a completely separate website devoted to modding of Aquaria. Anyone up for the task?
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Alright, it seems like MediaWiki is the most popular choice, so I've prepared an installation of MediaWiki (http://aquariawiki.ryanballantyne.name) for use as an Aquaria wiki. Right now I haven't done much in the way of configuration or customization; if the community decides to use this wiki then I'll make a logo and put some effort into the front pages and such. If not...I'll just quietly take it down. ;)
(I also still have to enable uploads. I'll get to it, be patient...)
By putting this up, I'm promising to preserve the content you post to it. If, for whatever reason, I am unable to continue to host the wiki, I promise to work with the community to get the content transitioned to a new home.
I don't anticipate that this will consume much bandwidth. Like I said above, I can handle a couple gigs a month, and I really think this should be plenty for what we want to do. If I'm wrong...well, we'll cross that bridge when we reach it.
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I hope I didn't tread on anyones toes. Whilst looking for functions for my form changing problem I found a bunch of the sferia wiki stuff google has cached. So I copy-pasta'd it to the best of my abilities over to the Wiki site ryos posted.
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I hope I didn't tread on anyones toes. Whilst looking for functions for my form changing problem I found a bunch of the sferia wiki stuff google has cached. So I copy-pasta'd it to the best of my abilities over to the Wiki site ryos posted.
Nice job salvaging the previous wiki's contents, and it's nice to actually have a good place to put (and find) information about various functions. Looks like whoever filled the function pages got their list from the same place I did, though, so it's going to take a fair bit of work to get it complete.
Hmm... If everyone just found one function without an entry each day, searched the data files for it, and updated the wiki with usage instructions, it probably wouldn't take more than a couple months to get the list complete, except for the functions not actually used in the existing game...
Anyway, I've signed up, and will be mutilating pages occasionally as I see errors and omissions.
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I've gone crazy on the function list pages and revamped the formatting a little. I also added information about function signatures where I could find it in the game scripts (ugh, there are a ton of entity functions, I stopped around entity_part* for now). Corrections and additions are welcome.
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Nice work guys! I've made us a logo (hope nobody hates it too much :P), and will now focus on improving navigation from the front page to the content.
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Alec: Is there any way that we can start a NEW THREAD for the new Aquaria Wiki? So that the first post can be the information of the new wiki site?
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Alec: Is there any way that we can start a NEW THREAD for the new Aquaria Wiki? So that the first post can be the information of the new wiki site?
Yeah, just start the thread and let me know. :)
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I'll let ryos or people setting up the wiki start the thread. That way they can post all the information in the first post. :)