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Aquaria => General => Topic started by: SinoK on August 28, 2008, 02:12:39 pm
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At least!! Aquaria si available on STEAM.... and with achievements.
http://store.steampowered.com/app/24420/
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HI everybody!!
I'm new here, and first of all I wanna congratulate all the people at Bit Blot for the amazing piece of art AQUARIA. Thanks for your all great job.
But I have a big concern about the distribution of the game.... I would like the game would be available on STEAM (http://www.steamgames.com/v/index.php).
I know it has been asked before, I know... and I know developers have already considered this option, but I need to ask about it again... why? Because I think STEAM can improve the user experience a lot. Let me explain:
- Easy to buy the game. Different payment methods and secure, and 15 million people have already an STEAM account.
- STEAM can help to spread the game. Lot of people still don't know about Aquaria!!
- With STEAMworks (http://www.steampowered.com/steamworks/) tools (free tools by the way) Aquaria could have: STEAM community integration (chat in-game), auto-updating (no more downloading patches), stats (hours played), ACHIEVEMENTS (everybody loves achievements!!) and useful developers tools (instant sales-data, tracking gameplay (http://www.steamgames.com/status/ep2/ep2_stats.php)).
- And best of all..... with next STEAMcloud option, you could save your savegames on the net automatically, to continue playing wherever you want.
And that's the most exciting of STEAM..... that you can easily access to all your games with your account wherever yo want. So.... PLEASE... try everything you could to bring AQUARIA to STEAM... PLEASE.
Thank you for reading and sorry for talking about a such a repeated topic.
Have fun.
OH! a last different question.... what about a spanish translation of the game?
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There's really no need to "suggest" this again. Because if you did indeed know that it's been discussed before then you should know that Bit-Blot applied for Aquaria to be on STEAM but the bozos that run the service refuse to get back to them about it.
We all know the benefits of Steam distribution.
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I'm going to try again, with some help from Chris. I found some new contacts there, so I think we might have a shot.
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I'm going to try again, with some help from Chris. I found some new contacts there, so I think we might have a shot.
Thanks!! That's what I need to hear!!
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There's no reason why the game shouldn't be on Steam. I think we just need to demonstrate how much of a great fit it would be to them in a really clear way. ^-^
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There's no reason why the game shouldn't be on Steam. I think we just need to demonstrate how much of a great fit it would be to them in a really clear way. ^-^
And show that you have the determination to keep pesering them... I hate to say it but some of these people do deliberately ignore a first or even second such advance because they are testing your strengths, so try and try again Alec, and if they still ignore you after the third go then you might consider giving up....... But don't allow them to dictate to you, EVER!
That's the trouble they can also start to think that you are desperate and then they start telling you what you must do to stay with them and that is fatal.....
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Keep in mind that VALVe is a small company. It only has 160 people working... so imagine that only a small piece of them are working on getting content for STEAM and talking with many developers at same time.
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If you do go the Steam route, see if you can manage to get the game on there without requiring that Steam be loaded to run it. I know a number of people who would likely enjoy grabbing the game via the service, but hate being tied to it because of technical issues (several people I know at this point just can't get any games to run right when they need to be updated, and another guy is on dialup due to where he lives, which Steam doesn't like at all). It seems a lot of games go through Steam to run and update and such, but I know there are some that give you more options. The only one that springs to mind is DEFCON (I don't buy much on Steam if I can help it), but I know there are some others.
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I'm don't mind using Steam. I've bought a few games on there. (Orange Box, Everyday Shooter, AudioSurf) But I also have a good internet connection, so its not really a big deal.
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If this game had gone to steam only support, I would not have beeen continuing support for it, nor will my mod be continued. Don't get me wrong, there's some awesome features about steam that I really like. But there's a big problem with it. One being those that don't continue to have their own ISP. 6 months out of the year I'm on government computers, like now, using government satellite communications for internet access, which if you could imagine splitting up between 3000 marines for 3/4's of the time, the bandwidth gets quite slow. And future updates would not be possible. The only way I get stuff is by snail mail, from family and friends. It would be a sad fate if Aquaria went Steam only support. But on the other hand if you were able to keep the game domestic-so-to-speak, at the same time, then there wouldn't be a problem... that is if valve didn't try to get the rights to only be able to sell the product through them instead of the current method. I had Steam for a long time, even way back with half-life and all of it's expansions, then again with Half-life 2 but I had to talk to valve support because I was using a new computer since my old computer had died, and lost all my login information for my steam account. And my old email address for the account was no longer valid. But I got that resolved... unfortunately that laptop has since died with a critical hard drive error; cyclic redundancy error. :/ and now I'm using a new, yet older laptop. But it runs Aquaria beautifully. :) Once again lost my account for steam due to a loss of a hard drive. And once again my email is probably invalid... the joys of ever changing email service providers due to being in the military.
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Did anyone say it'd be Steam-only? Ever?
Fake drama is silly.
I understand that a few people have had problems with the service, and other people have some kind of personal vendetta against it, but millions of people use it successfully and enjoy it. I'm one of them! :)
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I kind of find it insulting that you said it was fake drama, but my experience with dealing with steam and not constantly having an internet connection is a big turn off for the idea. And many companies try to make their services exclusive only to such services.. and usually not by the developers choice but by companies with such services.
No one ever did say it would be Steam only, but no one ever stated that it wouldn't be either. I know others here share my point of view as well. Thus verifying my validity in saying that it's not fake drama.
But putting my pride aside, I wasn't trying to imply that I wouldn't continue modding support because of not liking steam, but for the fake that I wouldn't be able to continue support. However, from what you said, I can see that you wouldn't let it be the only means of distribution for PC and therefore I wouldn't have to worry about that now would I. :)
So, you cheered me up in way by saying that as well.
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I found your attitude confusing. Like "I'm only going to say this once" as if you're threatening people? It really sounded like you were getting worked up over nothing, and that's why I said "fake drama". There is no issue with putting Aquaria on Steam.
It is another platform we can release the game on, which is an awesome platform. There would be no reason to make the game exclusive to Steam at this point, since its already out on our site. (not that we would have anyways)
So chill, homies.
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There, edited comment to be less confusing and perhaps a bit less "threating" with "fake drama". : P
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Damn, man. I spent a whole lot of time at the Left 4 Dead booth at PAX, I shoulda brought it up with one of the Valve guys there. Silly me. Any progress? Or is there anything we can do, email, sign a petition, create fan sites, etc etc etc? I'll drive over there and hunger strike. Was gonna do it anyway to make them let me in to play L4D again, I can add this to my list of demands.
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Polite requests on the Steam forums might be cool. I don't know how much of a difference it makes, but I'm sure the more potential customers they know about, the better.
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I'm glad to hear that you've decided to start trying to communicate with them again! I already own Aquaria, but the larger audience sure couldn't hurt.
Valve's practices with Steam lately definitely have been questionable though. First we have the Braid guy Jonathon Blow echoing your sentiments on how hard it is to get in contact with them. Then Capcom goes and canceles their Steam release of Bionic Commando: Rearmed. Then one of the PAX 10 guys I talked to said similar things.
Now we have EA games showing up on digital services other than their own EA Downloader - something I didn't expect to happen - yet their games still aren't showing up on Steam despite a great distribution relationship between Valve and EA.
It really sounds like Valve needs to expand - you look at them, 150 spread between Steam, multiple games, and support, compared to a company like Harmonix that has 280 people working on Rock Band and not much else...it gets quite clear why Valve is having such supposed troubles. In the case of Aquaria, why *WOULDN'T* they want to put it up? Even if it only attracts a small audience, it's not like they'd lose money from it.
Anyway, good luck in all of this.
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Chris and I managed to make some progress on this front.
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Oh goodie! That's terrific news. Now if only you can get an advertisement for it on the main startup page like some of the other games on STEAM.
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If at all possible, I think you should try to get the 1.1 patch out before you get the game on steam. Otherwise, there will be a lot of people whining on the steam forums about broken widescreen support.
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That is brilliant Alec :D
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If at all possible, I think you should try to get the 1.1 patch out before you get the game on steam. Otherwise, there will be a lot of people whining on the steam forums about broken widescreen support.
Yeah, the version that goes up on Steam will be 1.1.0. (if we do indeed get to do it)
Also I'm hoping to release the patch to the longtime fans who bought the game before that version goes up, but we'll have to see how the timing works out.
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Man, I can't wait until version 1.1.0. Thanks for your hard work on it.
BTW, try to keep the price at 30 dollars, because people love free upgrades, and the mainstream audience isn't used to paying that much for an indy game. (big breath). Thanks :D
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I've been leaning a lot towards getting a mac instead of going with continuing support for Microsoft who has definitely let me down with the release of Vista. I definitely will not make that jump to vista. I deal with it on a daily basis fixing peoples computers, and vista is just so annoying. Besides, with an intel based mac I can run both at the same time, even though directx9.0 isn't fully supported yet, but I'm hearing that it's pretty close. Anyways, my whole point is that, if I do go with a mac, I'll most likely just repurchase the game for mac, and that way will already have a version 1.1.0 I'm still yet undecided, but when October rolls around, I'll probably be making that decision final. I'll have one other game to look forward to getting too, and that's Oids.X Man will that bring some great nostalgic memories back for me. :) My brother and I use to play that game all the time on our Atari ST's.
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Well Vista is being scrapped I heard. The next OS they're developing is totally different. Kind of what they did when Windows ME was such a bust.
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A 9 Billion Dollar mistake if you ask me. Hopefully Windows 7 is A LOT better. Again I'm really liking the direction that Apple is making.
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Vista is really unreliable: when the phasing out of Windows XP began, I immediately bought another copy so that if I get a new laptop, I'll be able to stick with my favorite os. (It's only my favorite because it's so familiar; if I wasn't so used to Windows, I would have immediately bought a Mac) :)
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Well Vista is being scrapped I heard. The next OS they're developing is totally different. Kind of what they did when Windows ME was such a bust.
Yes and not before time either, I am so relieved that I won't have to use it and lose my new hardware, damn that man >:(
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Chris and I managed to make some progress on this front.
Awesome awesome awesome....so on to more practical matters...
any thoughts about achievements? ;D
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WARNING - Spoilers ahoy
Aquire all Treasures - 30 points
Aquire Fish Form - 10 points
Aquire Nature Form - 10 points SECRET
Aquire Energy Form - 10 points
Aquire Spirit Form - 10 points SECRET
Aquire Beast Form - 10 points SECRET
Aquire Sun Form - 10 points SECRET
Aquire Dual Form - 10 points SECRET
Bind 50 Objects - 15 points
Meet Mia - 50 points - SECRET
Aquire all Pets - 15 points
Reflect 100 projectiles - 15 points
Why do they stare into those glowing orbs? - 5 points
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WARNING - Spoilers ahoy
Aquire all Treasures - 30 points
Aquire Fish Form - 10 points
Aquire Nature Form - 10 points SECRET
Aquire Energy Form - 10 points
Aquire Spirit Form - 10 points SECRET
Aquire Beast Form - 10 points SECRET
Aquire Sun Form - 10 points SECRET
Aquire Dual Form - 10 points SECRET
Bind 50 Objects - 15 points
Meet Mia - 50 points - SECRET
Aquire all Pets - 15 points
Reflect 100 projectiles - 15 points
Why do they stare into those glowing orbs? - 5 points
I am so pleased that you do not aply points to beating the simon says boss Glamador, I still haven't been able to beat the damn thing :( I got everything else though :D
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So does this mean it is indeed coming to Steam? I sure hope so! Would love to see the game get a wider audience.
Also whats planned for 1.1.0?? Sorry i've been away from the forums for a few months!
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Eat 1000 Sealoafs 50 points
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Eat 1000 Sealoafs 50 points
:D That's like... farming!
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Eat 1000 Sealoafs 50 points
That sounds like pure torture :o
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Yeah, that would be like forcefeeding naija her least favorite food. "shudders in imaginative horror" ;)
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And in the Fanart section or the Fanart Thread you can see what 1000 sealoafs will make of her. ;)
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And in the Fanart section or the Fanart Thread you can see what 1000 sealoafs will make of her. ;)
Yep lol Poor Naija ::)
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Hi everyone,
Sorry to bug, but any new news to report on this? An ETA perhaps?
I've been following Aquaria since it's release - enjoyed the demo quite a bit, but two things were keeping my from buying the game: lack of widescreen support, and I strongly prefer to get my games through Steam - if for no other reason than it's very convenient to have everything in one place, with one login, and no hassle to re-download.
It looks like both these things are going to be resolved; it's taken quite a bit longer than I thought it would, but I understand things work differently when you have a staff of 2 or 3 people :) I am eagerly awaiting the Steam release and having a rough date to look forward to would make it so much more bearable - even if it's just "before 2009".
I'm thinking and hoping the game will do wonderfully on Steam. It really gives you exposure to a big audience; rumors are that it did wonders for Introversion and Darwinia - I'm not sure how other indie games on the service have fared since then, but I will certainly be buying it.
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The next step is up to Valve at this point.
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Well, we made it past that point. Sweet.
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Alec, you are delightfully vague. Does this mean the Steam folks are interested?
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I can't say too much, but its getting somewhere. :)
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Delightfully vague indeed. Continue as such until we get a big announcement, that way it will be a bigger surprise. (Make it a good surprise)
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Glad to see you're making progress getting it on there!
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Awesome on the Steam front! Congrats on the progress
Well Vista is being scrapped I heard. The next OS they're developing is totally different. Kind of what they did when Windows ME was such a bust.
Vista is really unreliable: when the phasing out of Windows XP began, I immediately bought another copy so that if I get a new laptop, I'll be able to stick with my favorite os. (It's only my favorite because it's so familiar; if I wasn't so used to Windows, I would have immediately bought a Mac) :)
LOL Where the hell do you kids get this crap from? Vista has been a fantastic OS especially since SP1 came out. Stop believing the lies that stupid bloggers and Apple ads tell you and try it for yourself.
Scrapping Vista? Windows 7 drastically different? As someone who's actually seen and used Windows 7 for myself, you couldn't be more wrong, yet there is a whole lot that even intelligent bloggers like Paul Thurrott still don't know about.
October 25th, PDC - stay tuned.
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Oh? As far as I knew I havn't talked to any bloggers or apple ads....but if you say so I'll keep my eyes open on the 25th. Still, some facts to back up your claim would be nice.
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I wouldn't call my son stupid!! He has tried it and it made so many of his perepheral hardware defunct that he uninstaled it and went back to XP. XP is not the best but at least we can still use the new hardware we bought when that was introduced................
I have a perfectly good scanner that I loved using because of it's colour recognition, just sitting idle because of XP and now you say that Vista is the best, go wash your mouth out............ :'(
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I'll give Vista props on wireless LAN setup, it's as easy as 1 2 3, but as for a wired network, it is a bitch to get vista to work on a LAN, specially with other XP users. Vista doesn't like XP, where as XP doesn't have a problem seeing vista over a wired network at all. But other than that, there's a lot of other problems with vista, resource hog, cpu hog, and the way a lot of the control panel utilities have been moved around for the worst in nested pop-up windows is quite annoying. I read an article, I don't recall which computer magazine it was, but it's title struck at my curiosity, "Microsoft's 9 Billion Dollar Mistake", and the whole article talking about what they are trying to do to fix the mistake, ie Scrap Windows Vista, and work on releasing Windows 7. I sure hope it's for the better. Vista really made me lean towards getting a next gen apple. I have not done that yet though. I'm sticking with my current XP os until Microsoft does release something that is better. If Windows 7 is that much of a flop, then most likely I'll just stick with XP until software is no longer supported, and in which case I'll make the move to a mac that can use dual os's. :) That's the nice thing about mac right now is that you can run windows XP flawlessly on it side by side with it's current os. I'm very much liking that possibility.
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Boot camp is a wonderful thing, but it's also a tremendous hassle. I use the computer to play games, surf the web, and do my schoolwork. I wouldn't be doing anything else if I had a mac, and if I had a mac I would need to use Bootcamp to play most games. Since Windows has never caused me any problems in particular I see no reason to switch to software that only makes me do more work to do the same things I do now.
Good to hear I wasn't reading trash when I heard Vista was being scrapped.
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Boot camp is a wonderful thing, but it's also a tremendous hassle. I use the computer to play games, surf the web, and do my schoolwork. I wouldn't be doing anything else if I had a mac, and if I had a mac I would need to use Bootcamp to play most games. Since Windows has never caused me any problems in particular I see no reason to switch to software that only makes me do more work to do the same things I do now.
Good to hear I wasn't reading trash when I heard Vista was being scrapped.
No you most certainly wasn't Glamador, I have a feeling that LM8tor doesn't do much other than surf the web?
Just one thing that I will put straight now, my son is in IT and has worked in most areas of cumputer work since he left school and college, and he could strip one down and rebuild it working when he was 12 .... I broke one of his computers and manged to get him a couple second hand ones that he butchered for parts to get one good working computer..
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I didn't initially want to contribute to the off-topic direction this thread has taken, but I felt compelled. An OS that's been officially released for two years and already in use by millions can't really be "scrapped." You can only scrap things during the production phase. Once a product is out, all that can happen is it being succeeded by a newer version - you can't call that scrapping. In the context in which you guys are using it, every OS in history has been "scrapped", so perhaps you should choose different diction.
I've been using Vista x64 for about 6 months now, it's fine. I'm not particularly a fan of the OS, it doesn't really do anything for me that Windows XP didn't, but neither is it any worse than any OS I've ever used. I was, like some of you, a rather outspoken opponent of the OS until I actually used it, at which point my opinion turned largely to "meh, it works". Since then, reading enthused damnations of the OS come off as a bit...desperate, for lack of a better word, and smacking of typical internet hyperbole.
Regarding peripherals that are not compatible - the onus is on the hardware manufacturers to provide compatible drivers for new OSes. I've not had a single issue finding Vista drivers for any of my devices, which is saying something because not only am I on Vista, but it's 64bit. Then again, I use predominantly newer hardware from well known companies. Some people expect hardware that is decade older or more to be supported, this is perhaps not the most reasonable expectation given the rate at which PC technology moves. Lest we forget, Windows XP rendered vast numbers of older hardware incompatible as well; people were upset then same as now, but eventually we all bought newer, better hardware that was supported, forgot about how we hated this new OS, and moved on.
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There's still the issues of overbearing security system bugs that render certain programs inert, inefficient internal workings, among other things.
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I was also one of those people who was very wary of Vista until I actually tried it, and am now in the "meh, it works" camp. Although there are a few games which worked on XP which do not work on Vista which I'm a bit upset about, but that isn't too major of an issue.
Also Alec, if you have any advice on getting onto Steam, or even want to mention my game to them, I'd be grateful! I haven't contacted them myself yet except that I sent an email asking about more information on getting a game onto Steam, but I sent that about a year ago and they never replied, so maybe it's time to send them another email.
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Basically what I learned is that they look at everything from a pure marketing perspective:
"Are we going to be able to sell this game and at what price."
So its more about a game's reputation and whether it'll make a splash than if the game itself is amazing. (which explains how some crappy games end up on steam - because they have a well-known brand)
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Hmm, that's interesting, and seems in line with what I've heard about their selection process. I guess I'll have to try to improve the popularity of my game first before asking them (the ID forums are only 1/10th the size of this one in terms of total posts for instance).
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Basically what I learned is that they look at everything from a pure marketing perspective:
"Are we going to be able to sell this game and at what price."
So its more about a game's reputation and whether it'll make a splash than if the game itself is amazing. (which explains how some crappy games end up on steam - because they have a well-known brand)
Well you guys won the 2007 IGF so that had to help right? =)
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Well you guys won the 2007 IGF so that had to help right? =)
Yeah, we have a lot of accolades and the game is really well known as far as indie games go.
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Well you guys won the 2007 IGF so that had to help right? =)
Yeah, we have a lot of accolades and the game is really well known as far as indie games go.
/me just learned a new word. No, it's not wrong spelled chocolade. :)
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Xiagan, sometimes you just have the most random threads ever! lol It's definitely good for a laugh. :)
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I'd happily purchase the game again if it was to show up on Steam, even though I'd be paying a fair bit more (relatively speaking, of course - I believe an Aussie dollar was buying US 87c when the game was released).
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I'd like to add that if you do get Aquaria on steam try to allow previous owners that purchased Aquaria through you to register their games, in the same way that people that pre-ordered World of Goo were able to register their copies with Steam using their pre-order serial codes.
It would be a huge service to those of us that have already supported you.
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I'd like to add that if you do get Aquaria on steam try to allow previous owners that purchased Aquaria through you to register their games, in the same way that people that pre-ordered World of Goo were able to register their copies with Steam using their pre-order serial codes.
It would be a huge service to those of us that have already supported you.
There's likely a cost (to the developer) associated with doing that. Just think about it for a moment. Steam made/makes no money from sales of the game outside of Steam, so why would they allow those people to suck up bandwidth on their service, downloading hundreds of megs?
I suspect for the very few non-Valve games where you can activate external CD keys/serial codes on Steam, the developers/publishers had to make specific compensation to Steam for that privaledge.
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I'd like to add that if you do get Aquaria on steam try to allow previous owners that purchased Aquaria through you to register their games, in the same way that people that pre-ordered World of Goo were able to register their copies with Steam using their pre-order serial codes.
It would be a huge service to those of us that have already supported you.
There's likely a cost (to the developer) associated with doing that. Just think about it for a moment. Steam made/makes no money from sales of the game outside of Steam, so why would they allow those people to suck up bandwidth on their service, downloading hundreds of megs?
I suspect for the very few non-Valve games where you can activate external CD keys/serial codes on Steam, the developers/publishers had to make specific compensation to Steam for that privaledge.
I can't seem to find the qoute but I remember Gabe saying that it was free, they did however need to give valve access to the algorithm that generates the keys which almost every publisher refuses to do.
But even if, so? If he can and its not too big a cost it would still be nice if Bit Blot supported us by doing this. Just look at the goodwill that 2DBoy generated when they did it.
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Any chance of a release before the new year?
My interest is fickle and currently waning.
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Any chance of a release before the new year?
My interest is fickle and currently waning.
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You win the 2008 award for Most Oblique Response To a Valid Question.
:p
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It might halp to get some articles and reviews on big game sites. I noticed there is a review from IGN's AU team, If you could get a review on IGN's main site it might help. and possibly gamespot as well.
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There already is a review on IGN's main site here. (http://pc.ign.com/articles/844/844673p1.html) It is one of the best I've seen, and I believe that it came before the Australia version.
[EDIT] I was mistaken, though the link is easy enough to find from the main page. I doubt that IGN would redo a review with such a good one from the Aussie staff.
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yeah I said there was from IGN AU :P They don't redo reviews from their different offices, They would all show up as seperate reviews. Lots of games have all 3 reviews from US, UK and AU
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I can't see the point of creating three links to a single review, though I'm sure they have a good reason. 8)
[EDIT]: Just found a pretty limited article on Aquaria on Gamespy. (http://pc.gamespy.com/pc/aquaria/)
[EDIT]: I stand corrected. I must say that I am ignorant of most of these matters.
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I think you misunderstood me, Its not 1 review, they usually have 3 seperate reviews from 3 people. you can see on the side that UK has N/A as well as the main one.
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I think this is a proportion of chances of it not happening to chances of it happening.
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We shall see..... ::)
i know secrets
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We shall see..... ::)
i know secrets
^^^ Alec's post without the size command, hmm....
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So, now that version 1.1 is out...
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...it's up to Bit-Blot to gain privileges (being able to choose how the game is sold on Steam) by selling lots of games (and at the low, low price of $20) and up to Valve for getting it into their thick skull that Bit-Blot deserves the freedom and that Aquaria is one of the most desirable 2D games.
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Certainly, it was/is my #1!
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...it's up to Bit-Blot to gain privileges (being able to choose how the game is sold on Steam) by selling lots of games (and at the low, low price of $20) and up to Valve for getting it into their thick skull that Bit-Blot deserves the freedom and that Aquaria is one of the most desirable 2D games.
I'm not sure I understand. Why/how would it be sold any differently than any other game on Steam?
I thought it was a done deal based on Alec's posts, just a matter of when the new build would be ready :(
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It's a done deal, but Alec was talking about how Valve wanted complete control over the portal... nothing important, almost a matter of pride and dignity
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What. I don't know what anyone's talking about in this thread anymore.
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Sorry, have I placed words in your mouth? :-[ :) What is the situation with Steam a the moment?
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YEAH!!!
Aquaria is FINALLY on STEAM. Thanks a lot. I'm buying it right now!!
http://store.steampowered.com/app/24420/
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Looks like they bumped the price down a little - but it's worth it considering the exposure. Great work guys! :D Now if only there was a way to move my version to the steam portal...
[EDIT] I know it's a discount.
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Yay. :)
Also features 27 achievements with new art by Derek.
Looks like they bumped the price down a little - but it's worth it considering the exposure. Great work guys! :D Now if only there was a way to move my version to the steam portal...
Price is the same ($19.99) but the game is temporarily on a 20% sale. (until Dec. 31)
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Yay. :)
Also features 27 achievements with new art by Derek.
Is this something related to Steam, or is it in the new Mac and PC version as well?
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Yay. :)
Also features 27 achievements with new art by Derek.
Is this something related to Steam, or is it in the new Mac and PC version as well?
They are Steam achievements, so they will only be in the Steam version, as far as I know.
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if you already bought Aquaria, will it be possible to use or key code to link it to steam and have those achievements or being able to download the game from steam later on?
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You have no idea how unbelievably excited I am about this. I can't wait to order my copy :D
Congratulations guys, Aquaria truly deserves it.
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Too bad about the achievements, would have been to be able to get the game through steam with our cd-keys, but it doesn't work.
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I bought this game a long time ago, and was wondering if I could transfer that copy to steam?
I want to be able to play with steam achievements, but don't really want to buy the game twice if I don't have to.
This has been done with lots of other games, like World Of Goo. So it is possible - just needs to be organised with Valve to have the cd keys enable the steam version.
Would be greatly appreciated if you make this possible!
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;D YAY! ;D
I bought two copies and gifted one to a friend who is probably too much of a frat boy Halo/Gears of War type gamer to ever appreciate it, just because I wanted to support the game and he's the only one of my friends who probably would never buy it for himself ;)
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He has absolutely no idea what he's missing. :) Good job broadening his horizons!
I was stuck on RTS's before I found indie games, and now I am trying first person shooters. (Especially the Orange Box - what a steal!) :)
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BTW Alec, I'm sure the Valve guys tell this to you, but anyone who logs into Steam today is greeted by this nice big banner when Steam loads. I really like the update banners, they key me into games I never knew existed, hopefully it does the same for people unfamiliar with Aquaria.
(http://img372.imageshack.us/img372/9246/aquariabannerju6.jpg)
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Nice - I usually hate pop-ups but this one ... this one is alright. ;D It make me so happy to see awareness of Bit-Blot spreading - you two deserve the attention. Aquaria makes a harsh contrast with the pixelated building games preceding it - they're not quite the same quality (understatement of the year).
[EDIT]: BTW, what are the Steam achievements? I was unable to find them on the Aquaria information page.
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[EDIT]: BTW, what are the Steam achievements? I was unable to find them on the Aquaria information page.
http://steamcommunity.com/id/ntg/stats/Aquaria
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Thanks man! I believe that I've accomplished every one of those achievements except for the Speed Racer (<1 minute Arnassi Race time) and High Dive (jumping from an undisclosed location in the Veil).
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I've just seen the announcement on steam and think its awesome that it happened :) .
With it being on steam its bound to get more recognition.
Although I share the same thoughts/questions as others, will we be able to use our regular keys on the steam version at some point in the future?
I preordered World of Goo before it was announced on steam and thought it was great that they allowed people to activate it on steam and get all the benefits like the achievements too. It took a week or so to implement but the wait didn't matter.
It'd be great if this was implemented too for aquaria as well.
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Acheivement: Weird Fish
Discover two peculiar-looking fish...
HAHAH! That's some easter egg!! (Search forum for information on that one)
I just bought the game AGAIN to have it on my Steam account... AND I HAVE NO REMORSE! Just a little Extra fund for you guys.
That may help for the future update as well... ^^
Great job guys! Keep it up! Now... Translation time I guess! :)
EDIT: Change the title from "Aquaria on STEAM?" to "Aquaria on Steam!!!1!!one" :D
Edit 2: Did you check the Meta critic?! 84/100, pretty nice!!
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Heh, great! Now the first million earned $ with Aquaria shouldn't be far away. ;)
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Definitely well deserved!
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Oh man, please tell me I'll be able to get this on Steam after having bought it last year...
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I wonder if the registration keys you get with the full version could be used to activate the Steam one...
Nope. Any chance this could be fixed?
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I bought the game again just for the achievements. :D
More support for the team and maybe a bigger chance to get Aquaria 2 some day. :D
But i hope that there will be more achievements added in the future. For example for finding every treasure in the game or every outfit for Naija.
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Kotaku is running the announcement: http://kotaku.com/5112402/aquaria-appears-sets-sale-on-steam
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Also, as of the time of this writing, Aquaria is #9 on the Steam top sellers list (though I do not know the basis [daily, weekly, etc] is for their top seller list).
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So what are achievements, and what do they do?
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You unlock achievements in some games when you do something like defeating a boss.
What they do? Well..nothing. ^^ But it's fun to achieve them.
In the Steam Version of Aquaria are 27 Achievements:
http://steamcommunity.com/id/keksus/stats/Aquaria (i don't know why, but the 2 i already achieved are locked again. -.-
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http://steamcommunity.com/id/keksus/stats/Aquaria (i don't know why, but the 2 i already achieved are locked again. -.-
Its a bug, i'm going to try to get a fix up today or tomorrow.
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FYI, Aquaria is listed within the Top Sellers tab today in Steam :)
Congrats!
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I wonder if the registration keys you get with the full version could be used to activate the Steam one...
Nope. Any chance this could be fixed?
Yes, please allow us to do that.
I don't even know where to dl a copy anymore, luckily I have it archived away but I don't know what I'd do if that backup disappeared.
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I don't even know where to dl a copy anymore, luckily I have it archived away but I don't know what I'd do if that backup disappeared.
http://www.bit-blot.com/forum/index.php?topic=1426.0
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I prefer purchasing games on a physical medium, but that hasn't prevented me from purchasing games digitally on Steam or PSN. Along with its availability on Steam, I noticed that Aquaria can also be purchased on CD now too through Aquaria's site. Steam has it's awesome features, such as achievements and automatic updates, but I enjoy the physical disk, packaging and such. While I know it's far fetched, but I'm curious if the CD game will be Steam compatible, similar to Valve's retail releases Left 4 Dead and the Half-Life 2 games. In other words, I would like to have my cake (a lie or not) and eat it too.
Would purchasing the CD be more beneficial to Bit Blot than Steam? Or is that secret insider info?
Thanks.
Edit: I also apologize if this has been asked before, I've looked around and haven't been able to find any other inquiry into the compatability of the CD game and Steam
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Can someone answer the question if we will be able to use our key code to activate it trough steam for the people that have already bought the game?
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I don't even know where to dl a copy anymore, luckily I have it archived away but I don't know what I'd do if that backup disappeared.
http://www.bit-blot.com/forum/index.php?topic=1426.0
Its been forever since I had that info, I have my cd key of sorts but that's it.
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CD and keys don't let you activate on Steam currently.
I don't have details on the CD you can buy from Plimus. They have an automated CD printing service, so I imagine its a pretty barebones CD. (it won't have label art or anything)
Derek and I are looking at making a special edition version of the game, but we'll see if/when we can pull that off.
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I don't have details on the CD you can buy from Plimus. They have an automated CD printing service, so I imagine its a pretty barebones CD. (it won't have label art or anything)
That makes my decision much easier. Thank you.
While I would like to wait to see if the special edition comes out, I don't want to wait any longer to give the full version of Aquaria a try.
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any chance of giving a hint whether achievments will be released in a future patch? ::)
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any chance of giving a hint whether achievments will be released in a future patch? ::)
At first i would like to see the following:
"Get all Pets"
"Find every Outfit"
"Find every treasure"
That would make 30. But i think Aquaria is big enough for at least 80 Achievements. :D
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well, I purchased the game again to support you guys / because I'm an achievement whore.
got the game this feb as a gift, so I figured I could drop 16$ of my own money to support the cause as well.
decided not to wait for keys to upload to Steam, since it might never happen.
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Can someone answer the question if we will be able to use our key code to activate it trough steam for the people that have already bought the game?
One of the problems with this is that Valve must be provided with a list of every CD-key printed for the game. That doesn't sound like the sort of info Alec has.
But speaking of Steam... Does anyone else see a problem with this? I hope this doesn't hurt your business.
(http://nathant.shield.googlepages.com/steammath.PNG)
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Can someone answer the question if we will be able to use our key code to activate it trough steam for the people that have already bought the game?
One of the problems with this is that Valve must be provided with a list of every CD-key printed for the game. That doesn't sound like the sort of info Alec has.
But speaking of Steam... Does anyone else see a problem with this? I hope this doesn't hurt your business.
(http://nathant.shield.googlepages.com/steammath.PNG)
I'm pretty sure all sales are agreed and negotiated well in advance. Look at bioshock, still worth about £20-£30 on sale for only £3.50.
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I think he's referring to the fact that it should say 20% off, not 10%. :P
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Can someone answer the question if we will be able to use our key code to activate it trough steam for the people that have already bought the game?
One of the problems with this is that Valve must be provided with a list of every CD-key printed for the game. That doesn't sound like the sort of info Alec has.
But speaking of Steam... Does anyone else see a problem with this? I hope this doesn't hurt your business.
(http://nathant.shield.googlepages.com/steammath.PNG)
Why wouldn't he? Cliffski of Kudos and Kudos 2 does. According to his past reports on QT3 I also wouldn't be stranded like I am trying to get the new copy of the game, having me keep a copy of a year old receipt that I need to email you to update IS NOT a good system.
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as for getting our existing copies working with Steam...why not go the manual route? Get some promotional codes/credits to download the game from Steam, and then do the same thing you did with the upgrade- have people email you their serial # from their original purchase, and issue them a credit to download the game from Steam. The game files are the same, so it shouldn't be hard to move save files over from the original game to the Steam install, correct?
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as for getting our existing copies working with Steam...why not go the manual route? Get some promotional codes/credits to download the game from Steam, and then do the same thing you did with the upgrade- have people email you their serial # from their original purchase, and issue them a credit to download the game from Steam. The game files are the same, so it shouldn't be hard to move save files over from the original game to the Steam install, correct?
This sounds extremely time-consuming. After the Windows patch he spent most of his time reactivating downloads for a few days; let's not forget he has other work demands too, eh? :)
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Though I'd post a picture a friend sent me of the Plimus CD...
(http://img395.imageshack.us/img395/5797/aquariacdwv6.th.jpg) (http://img395.imageshack.us/my.php?image=aquariacdwv6.jpg)
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Though I'd post a picture a friend sent me of the Plimus CD...
(http://img395.imageshack.us/img395/5797/aquariacdwv6.th.jpg) (http://img395.imageshack.us/my.php?image=aquariacdwv6.jpg)
Thanks for that!
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Looks like productivity software or a boot-up disc, ugh ... any progress on creating a hard copy? Thanks! :)
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Thanks for that!
I'll forward the thanks to my french translation teamate! :D
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Thank you for bringing it to Steam; if I hadn't seen it during the xmas sale, I would've completely missed this game!
I bought 3 copies.
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Thank you for bringing it to Steam; if I hadn't seen it during the xmas sale, I would've completely missed this game!
I bought 3 copies.
Sweet! :)