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Re: Eternal Daughter...I kind of can't play it...
« Reply #15 on: July 02, 2009, 12:59:16 am »
Holy crap, this game is hard.  It's like when I played Megaman X for the first time, but I'm just not getting better at it at hardly at all.  Maybe I could get some pointers, see if I've missed some vital move that lets me toast Hume instead of him continually mopping the floor with me?

I've got 3 strength, 50 ammo of the level 1 dagger things, the double jump from the mines, and a full top row of health.  I can get to the Sigil ammo (which looks spiffy!) underwater just outside Hume's area, but only just; it's not long enough to get back out to air with it before I die.  Have I missed a water-breathing upgrade or something?  I remember there being a health upgrade back in the very first area, but it was blocked off by some metal equipment I couldn't break through (not the blue bricks more common).  And now, I can't jump enough to get back there from the woods.  Is it permanently out of reach?

I get that the general idea with Hume is to stay roughly in the middle as he jumps back and forth over you, avoid the drill, and pop the purple things with the dagger.  My main issue is that the angle of attack of the bubbles is too high to start with to pop them easily.  It's very tricky to jump, then press up and allow enough time after you've pressed it to press Ctrl for the dagger shot to take; most of the time I get my usual ineffectual swipe.  And of course, you can't hold a charge shot while you jump, heaven forbid.   By the time the bubbles have followed me for long enough that they're down where I can dagger them without jumping, there's too many, and Hume has me cornered to the point where I can't get out because the injury immunity period is so damnably short.

Am I doing things completely wrong? Have I missed critical upgrades?  Am I even following the guy that the Elder sent off in the right direction?  Or is it just really, exceedingly difficult?

(Yes I know this is an old thread.  It gives some background.)

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Re: Eternal Daughter...I kind of can't play it...
« Reply #16 on: July 02, 2009, 04:04:01 pm »
Yes, it IS difficult. I was so annoyed by hume and so happy when I beat him. After nearly finishing the game (I look at you, last form of Baphomet), I played it again and killed hume without any effort or losing health. You DO get better by playing. :)

There is some water-breathing upgrade but you're not supposed to have it already. Focus on killing hume now, and story will unfold and tell you what to do and where to go next.

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Re: Eternal Daughter...I kind of can't play it...
« Reply #17 on: July 02, 2009, 06:32:06 pm »
The one time I watched Derek play this game, I noticed he was dodging all the enemies. Maybe one of the keys is avoiding stuff as much as possible?

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Re: Eternal Daughter...I kind of can't play it...
« Reply #18 on: July 03, 2009, 09:50:42 am »
I had left all my saves at a different computer, so I downloaded it here to see how far I could get.  Interestingly enough, you're right; early sections of the game were ridiculously easy compared to when I first stared playing.  I got back to where I was before in something like a fifth of the time.  And, thanks to the fact that you can reach one of the Lorian forest heart containers by injury-bouncing off a leaf-dude once you have the double-jump, and the fact that you don't need water-breathing to get to the high launcher, the wall-jump boots, and the second Lorian forest heart container, I was at full top row +1. 

Finally beat Hume!  Woo!  Also, the Hammer is bitchin', since I can finally attack upwards without jumping.

How do I get by that green blobby fellow blocking the way in the slime area?  I already beat their moldy old king (bats are your frieeeeends, yesss).  What's he saying?  (What's that, Lassie? Timmy's down the well again?  ???)

Aaaaaand now I'm at the first of the Three Riders, with all the bugs, just after going through that tedious gauntlet with a save only at the beginning.   :'(   Fortunately, I didn't waste too much time before figuring out I could slide under the statues' tridents, instead of jumping over them while everyone and their uncle is trying to alternately stab, gore, or otherwise maim you.
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Re: Eternal Daughter...I kind of can't play it...
« Reply #19 on: July 04, 2009, 09:25:09 am »
Damn, I miss this game.  So epic.  Hard as hell, but so much fun.

Spelunky kicks my ass, too.  Does Derek just like to make us cry?

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Re: Eternal Daughter...I kind of can't play it...
« Reply #20 on: July 06, 2009, 05:20:53 pm »
Damn, I miss this game.  So epic.  Hard as hell, but so much fun.

Spelunky kicks my ass, too.  Does Derek just like to make us cry?

He does. Atm i'm crying because I can't get Spelunky to run.  :'(

Nice progress, Zeke! :)
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Re: Eternal Daughter...I kind of can't play it...
« Reply #21 on: July 06, 2009, 11:42:25 pm »
Xaig, which version are you using?  I downloaded this version:

http://forums.tigsource.com/index.php?topic=4017.0

and it worked no problem.  I don't know whether it's a DOS game or not, but if it is, DOSBox might be useful to you:

http://www.dosbox.com/download.php?main=1


The second gauntlet leading up to the second rider is vastly more annoying, since you can't avoid the bugs or prepare for the bunnicorns as easily as before.  Grr!

Added:  Man, this game has like, plateaus of difficulty.  Up to Hume was incredibly hard, then it evened out for a while after that.  Then the first of the three riders was tricky, but the last two weren't too bad.  Now I've beat the giant crab to get underwater, got the helmet, the sigil, the familiar, and a few odd health/power upgrades.  Aaaand the slimy area leading up to the plant-like god, with all the fire-breathing statues, is murderous.  There's no save points anywhere near!  At least the dungaga god wasn't too bad; but the area you access with the scale, with the flame-throwing flying merpersons, is toasting me.

Also, level 7 power = electric whip?  Badass!

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Re: Eternal Daughter...I kind of can't play it...
« Reply #22 on: July 09, 2009, 08:10:18 am »
Hey guys, few questions.  There's a couple places where it looks like I should be able to do a crouch and slide, if only I was a little smaller:  one in the room where I get the idol of the dungaga god, below the bestiary, and one underwater, where I got the Sigil weapon upgrade, right near Hume.   Do these do anything?  The door to where Hume used to be is still closed; does it ever open?  And, is level 9 the highest power you can get to?  It seems to be so.


Hints?  I have the walkthrough, but I am loathe to use it; I have yet to need it.




(Yes I know, double post, but I already updated the last one, and this one actually has questions in it.)
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Re: Eternal Daughter...I kind of can't play it...
« Reply #23 on: July 10, 2009, 12:12:22 am »
Huh, I don't exactly remember how to go around this guy, but there is a glitch you can use: Throw a trident at his head (or slightly above?), jump on it and slide over his head. :)

btw, do you have a little flying pet yet? If not, you should search for it somewhere in the upper stories. Truly worth a lot!
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Eternal Daughter I kind of cant play it
« Reply #24 on: January 25, 2010, 03:35:13 pm »
I havent heard much about Eternal Darkness, so I cant comment on that.  But if youre unsure of what to get, better get RE to be on the safe side.  Youll at least be promised a quality game.......

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Re: Eternal Daughter...I kind of can't play it...
« Reply #25 on: January 25, 2010, 09:31:02 pm »
Spamity Spam?
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Re: Eternal Daughter...I kind of can't play it...
« Reply #26 on: January 26, 2010, 05:11:05 am »
I'm not sure if it's spam or a very confused person, but seeing it's only one post... eh.
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Re: Eternal Daughter...I kind of can't play it...
« Reply #27 on: January 27, 2010, 01:13:56 am »
I'm not sure if it's spam or a very confused person, but seeing it's only one post... eh.

Both.

He has no idea what this topic is about, is confusing two very, very different games, and on top of that is recommending we buy RE "just to be on the safe side, because it's a quality game". Sounds like spamming to me.

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Re: Eternal Daughter...I kind of can't play it...
« Reply #28 on: February 24, 2010, 09:51:59 pm »
I will not tolerate spam in my thread!



DAMMIT!  I'm amazed this thread has lasted so long.  I still can't play this game worth a damn, but it's good to see it sparked some discussion long after I left.

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Re: Eternal Daughter...I kind of can't play it...
« Reply #29 on: February 25, 2010, 12:16:48 am »
Oh hey, welcome back.
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