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Offline Kagenoku

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Re: Hmm, First Negative Review?
« Reply #15 on: December 27, 2007, 07:23:43 pm »
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Re: Hmm, First Negative Review?
« Reply #16 on: December 27, 2007, 08:51:34 pm »
My favorite part was "you shoot energy out of one hand, zomg metroid ripoff"

Hehe.

And while you are at it, what about Megaman as well? 

Now, I generally don't mind negative reviews too much when they're well-written and actually bring up valid complaints.  But this just really struck me as going out of his way to find things to hate about the game.  I don't even know how he can complain about the graphics, unless his computer was running like crap and couldn't handle the game.  The complaints about the VA work sounds like he just really doesn't like the british accent.  Or is a person who insists on japanese voiceovers in games.  Guess he'd hate Dragon Quest VIII, considering a large portion of the cast features british accents.  Of course, it can be a matter of taste, but it does not warrent being called 'horrid'. 

Besides, I love the King's Field games - most people don't.  Generally receives mixed reviews - a number of the negative reviews do bring up valid complaints - the game is *very* slow paced, the controls are a bit awkward at first.  And the sheer amount of booby-traps can be a big turnoff for some.  And almost always, there's a complaint about the graphics.  (Which I've never cared overly much about - they're serviceable, and they're not *that* bad.)  But, I find the games are pretty atmospheric, and they really reward exploration well - lots of secret passages with nifty treasures to find.  I admit the games are a bit of an acquired taste.  But, some complaints people make are purely BS, like mentioning that you need to level grind for hours, when if you are even halfway decent at fighting things, you don't need to grind at all.  Though, if you're the type who has to buy out the shops, sure, you'll need to grind a lot for gold, but you generally find good equipment if you explore a bit.  And I even saw a complaint about load times when the world is pretty much seamless.  Only load times I remember are the usual - starting the game up, loading a saved game, and when teleporting.  If people are going to complain, complain about stuff that's actually valid.

So, sort of like the Aquaria review I linked to.  So, I guess any game where you get an ability to shrink your size to fit in small areas is ripping off Metroid's morph ball?  Then the complaint about bosses being Kraid or Ridley ripoffs - right after the complaint about never having a boss that you just shoot at.  Well, wasn't Ridley simply dodging his attacks and shooting the hell out of him?   And Kraid, again, shooting the bugger at his weak point.  Meh, I just felt I'd post it, and let everyone rip it apart.  Besides, wouldn't you rather hear it here than out on the streets?  *psst, you hear about that bad Aquaria review by some random guy?*  =P 

Alright, I'm out of things to say at the moment, and I'm starting to ramble a little I think, so I think I'm done here.  For now.


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Re: Hmm, First Negative Review?
« Reply #17 on: December 28, 2007, 09:29:33 am »
Eragon is a ripoff.  Aquaria is not.  Aquaria is a tribute to all preceeding games of the same genre.  It's hardly revolutionary.  What's groundbreaking is that such a game can still be fresh.  It's more of a revival than anything.

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Not having read it, I couldn't say for sure that it's a "rip off", but there is the 'hero's journey' archetype which is replicated everywhere (the late Joseph Campbell waxed lyrical about it - haven't read him either, but there you go) - it was no more original in Star Wars than any other source. That doesn't necessarily diminish the quality of the final work; taking an existing formula and playing with it, using it as a basis for creative exploration, is quite common and creatively effective. In many ways it could be argued that this is what Aquaria does - it remains familiar to players in the way it hearkens back to classic 2D gaming, but it's still very much its own game. Anyone who dissects something and declares it a rip off can only be presumed unfamiliar with the phrase "the whole is more than the sum of its parts".
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Re: Hmm, First Negative Review?
« Reply #18 on: December 28, 2007, 03:39:37 pm »
ZOMG, Computers are a ripoff of Charles Babbage!!!1!

Sorry, I just had to say that.

My friend and I were practically shouting "WHAT?!" ten times or so thoughout the entire review.

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Re: Hmm, First Negative Review?
« Reply #19 on: December 28, 2007, 11:00:18 pm »
I'm the most pretentious sounding British woman? Can I put that quote on my website? :)

I was kind of expecting some people not to like the VAing or to not understand where I was coming from with the way I voiced the character. I could have voiced it like a crazy anime girl but it wouldn't have felt right to me. So yeah, feel free not to like the VAing as that is something very personal to people but to slate the graphics is just ridiculous cos they are undeniably beautiful.

I am just wandering what we got the '3' points for!

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Re: Hmm, First Negative Review?
« Reply #20 on: December 28, 2007, 11:09:55 pm »
To have a good time some people go traveling, they create things, make love etc.

Other people trash things randomly.

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Re: Hmm, First Negative Review?
« Reply #21 on: December 29, 2007, 02:08:18 am »
My favorite part was "you shoot energy out of one hand, zomg metroid ripoff"

Hehe.

And while you are at it, what about Megaman as well? 
Pfft. Megaman is such a kirby ripoff.

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Re: Hmm, First Negative Review?
« Reply #22 on: December 29, 2007, 04:10:08 am »

"Tennis for Two" was the only original game!
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Re: Hmm, First Negative Review?
« Reply #23 on: December 29, 2007, 04:16:48 am »
"Tennis for Two" was the only original game!
Total ripoff of tennis.
Which was in turn a total ripoff of people throwing stuff at each other.  ;D

I'm pretty sure it all started at the amoeba level, when one amoeba decided to frustrate another by hurling a food particle at it.
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Re: Hmm, First Negative Review?
« Reply #24 on: December 29, 2007, 05:12:13 am »
"Tennis for Two" was the only original game!
Total ripoff of tennis.
Which was in turn a total ripoff of people throwing stuff at each other.  ;D

I'm pretty sure it all started at the amoeba level, when one amoeba decided to frustrate another by hurling a food particle at it.

Alright, that just reminded me of the old Qbasic game, Gorillas.  Old precursor to Scorched Earth, two gorillas on top of buildings, throwing bananas at each other.  =P


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Re: Hmm, First Negative Review?
« Reply #25 on: December 29, 2007, 05:15:32 am »
Alright, that just reminded me of the old Qbasic game, Gorillas.  Old precursor to Scorched Earth, two gorillas on top of buildings, throwing bananas at each other.  =P


Haha, that looks like 8-bit fun (it's 8, right?)! Especially the smiling sun.

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Re: Hmm, First Negative Review?
« Reply #26 on: December 29, 2007, 05:17:53 am »
QBasic!

Best programming language ever.

Nibbles was the other classic. ;)

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Re: Hmm, First Negative Review?
« Reply #27 on: December 29, 2007, 12:48:29 pm »
Nibbles! I totally forgot about it! :D
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Re: Hmm, First Negative Review?
« Reply #28 on: January 02, 2008, 03:45:40 am »
There're reviews like this for every single game in GameFAQs' listings (which is why I only use the wretched thing for, you know, FAQs - the user reviews generally make me want to put a shotgun into either my own or a bunch of other peoples' mouths and pull the trigger over and over again). What actually irritates me the most is that stuff like this can cause people to dismiss negative reviews of generally high-scoring games offhand, because so many of them are dreadfully-written, irrelevant, negativity-for-its-own-sake rants like this, and reviewers with genuine and considered grievances with a game can be easily overlooked.

Of course, this paint-eating mouth-breather apparently cannot discern between pretentiousness and enunciation, so fuck 'im. GIVE US OUR COLONIES BACK, YOU CURS.

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Re: Hmm, First Negative Review?
« Reply #29 on: January 05, 2008, 01:46:02 am »
QBasic!

Best programming language ever.

Nibbles was the other classic. ;)
I loved that language. So accessible.

Oh, BTW, that review at GFAQs is gone. Apparently 1337toothbrush's advice was heeded. http://boards.gamefaqs.com/gfaqs/genmessage.php?board=937798&topic=40378652