Naija sprites

[Lissar]

Actually, I wasn't talking about the mods in this particular forum. I meant the discussions and topics that abound on the forums. I never tried to force a view. But I wanted to be respected for the alternative view. Instead, I have become the "female" that I knew people would assume me to be. And I did say I knew of some forums that were clearly marked in the titles, but that doesn't mean all of them are. I'm just asking for people to reserve topics farther away from the view of Aquaria fans like myself.

Did you read what I said above about AlphaSoldier's mods? I said they looked good. That's all, I didn't go into what they would be used for, and as long as no one else does then, no, I'm not offended.

[Alec]

Instead, I have become the "female" that I knew people would assume me to be. And I did say I knew of some forums that were clearly marked in the titles, but that doesn't mean all of them are. I'm just asking for people to reserve topics farther away from the view of Aquaria fans like myself.

I certainly respect the view of not wanting to hear about people's sexual fantasies, but I also don't recall assuming you were any particular type of "female".

I also think its wrong to persecute people for imagining things. People should be free to imagine whatever they damn well feel like. What seemed to be implied in yours and the other gent's post was that it is pathetic/wrong for people to imagine sexual situations that aren't based in reality. I find the hate directed towards those people more offensive than the people themselves. (whoever those people may be)

The world (and the internet) should be big enough for everyone to have their own little space without needing to feel stepped on.

Also the assumption made that the majority of the men on this forum are misogynistic because they discussed nudity in one thread, seems really childish.

[Alec]

e.g. I find this somewhat funny:

Beyond a bit of harmless cleavage, nothing about Naija as she is in the game suggests the kind of  anatomy or behavior that would make anyone yearn to see her naked. Not that most men here need much in the way of motivation to want to see that sort of thing anyway- hence the creation those more lascivious drawings of Naija. Although only one or two posters are honestly vocal about it, the vast majority of male players who download AS's nude modification are doing so out of purely puerile and perverted intent: whatever they might claim otherwise, they're now still free to use that naked imagery of her to indulge their sad, little fantasies. Have fun. 

Yes, why not have fun? I don't really care what people do on their own time. If they want to imagine themselves making out with a tyrannosaurus, they should go for it!

I agree that if people started posting long pornographic fan fiction here, we would want to sort it into its own hidden forum or ban it so as not to disturb people who may stumble across it.

[Lissar]

Please, please, please, re-read my posts. I'm not asking for the fantasizing to stop. I would just like it kept it out of view or accidental view of others on the forums. I haven't debased anyone. I wanted to give reasons as to why I felt the way I did so that it would make sense to readers. The content of which I talk about seems to degrade other's opinions, but as I said, I'm not allowed to force any opinion. Which is why I'm not asking anyone to do such.

[Alec]

Sorry, I wasn't really responding to you, I was more going off on my own rant against censorship. 

Yeah, I think its quite reasonable to keep stuff that could offend people out of the way so that only the people who want to find it will find it.

[Lissar]

To sum up what I'm saying: fantasize or don't fantasize. But if you do, keep it out of sight or accidental sight.

[Alec]

To sum up what I'm saying: fantasize or don't fantasize. But if you do, keep it out of sight or accidental sight.

I still don't think that anyone has outright fantasized or put anything pornographic that people would accidentally stumble upon.

I know some people linked to some Naija hentai somewhere, but there was a huge-ass warning on it.

[Eosphoros]

I kind of agree with Draiden.

Sexuality and nudity are two different things. Sexuality is something that we impose on nudity, although both go together hand in hand. We just can't read nudity without the social context that is sexuality. And in my social context, women are often portrayed as sexualized objects to be looked at. It's only fair that we should have the same standards for men.

[Alec]

Sexuality and nudity are two different things. Sexuality is something that we impose on nudity, although both go together hand in hand. We just can't read nudity without the social context that is sexuality. And in my social context, women are often portrayed as sexualized objects to be looked at. It's only fair that we should have the same standards for men.

That's totally why Alpha's making a naked Li.

Well that and also 'cause Li's hot.

[Lissar]

It just depends Alec. Somethings might not seem offensive to you, but you're more laid back. Which is fine, please, I'm not trying to offend you. But for people who are more sensitive to such matters it is more offensive. I'm sorry this forum has gotten this far. I didn't mean to start a war, so to speak.

[Alec]

It just depends Alec. Somethings might not seem offensive to you, but you're more laid back. Which is fine, please, I'm not trying to offend you. But for people who are more sensitive to such matters it is more offensive. I'm sorry this forum has gotten this far. I didn't mean to start a war, so to speak.

I don't see a war... I see a discussion which is pretty interesting. I'm quite enjoying it!

But I'm not sure what you're asking for, or what you expect to be done. (if you are expecting anything to be done?) It seems like there's some pretty benign stuff marked off with giant warning signs, so it can be easily avoided.

[Eosphoros]

Everyone is entitled to their fantasies, as long as it doesn't harm anyone. Lissar, I think you have a particular fantasy about Naija that you don't want anyone to tarnish, which is cool. Some people just have different types of fantasies, and they're not necessarily better or worse, just different.

[Lissar]

I have stumbled upon certain discussions and comments (accidentally), and I just felt "bad" finding them. I don't know how to explain in any other terms. I felt offended. I can't help it. What I would like is for anyone who is involved in these discussions not make them in more general forums where all types of gamers are found in. Maybe they can make their own forum (marked of course) where they can talk about it, or private message each other. I know this sounds pathetic, but some things just offend. Yes, I know I'm not a child and things shouldn't offend me, but there have been so many times where I've kept my mouth shut and said nothing and I felt defeated. Where everyone was allowed to voice their opinions and bluntly as they wanted, and I just happened to accidentally find it. As a forum, I thought it could be more controlled (since this isn't quite the vastness of the internet). I would like people to just be cautious of what they write, think about it, and decide if it needs to be put somewhere out of public view.

[Alec]

Well I appreciate that you're sharing your opinion.

Do you have any links to the threads in question? Because I really don't know what you're talking about. (help me understand?) We can't really establish any policies unless we specifically know what is offending people and whether or not it makes sense to limit that.

[Lissar]

Everyone is entitled to their fantasies, as long as it doesn't harm anyone.

Right, that's what I mean. I know everyone has an opinion (obviously myself included), but I don't think some things should be accidentally found. And now I wish I had documented the instances where I found them.