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Re: Aquaria 2 open source?
« Reply #15 on: January 25, 2011, 01:58:42 am »
Count me in!  I'd love to see an Aquaria 2 mod.  I'd also love to help out anyone whose serious about going ahead on this.  Maybe not with moding-- it's not really my thing.  But perhaps in terms of art design, story design, dialogue writing-- stuff on the creative end if anyone needs it.
   I rather like Nightmareshadow's suggestion that Mia could be a figment of Naija's imagination.  Who knows the extent of Naija's own powers?  Maybe she created Mia from her own dark desires and need for adventure.  There is the problem that the Creator refers to Mia directly, but I'm sure we could come up with a plausible explanation for that.  Any modders interested in pursuing that idea?

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« Reply #16 on: January 25, 2011, 07:38:10 am »
I'm fairly sure it wouldn't work, seeing that if Mia was the figment of Naija, then the creator made Naija, who would most likely have made her incapable of killing him. Or so, that was the case with Mia.
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« Reply #17 on: January 25, 2011, 08:10:37 am »
Count me in!  I'd love to see an Aquaria 2 mod.  I'd also love to help out anyone whose serious about going ahead on this.  Maybe not with moding-- it's not really my thing.  But perhaps in terms of art design, story design, dialogue writing-- stuff on the creative end if anyone needs it.
You should post some samples of your work. Or make a thread about your ideas for an Aquaria 2 mod. It might help get the ball rolling faster.

I rather like Nightmareshadow's suggestion that Mia could be a figment of Naija's imagination.  Who knows the extent of Naija's own powers?  Maybe she created Mia from her own dark desires and need for adventure.  There is the problem that the Creator refers to Mia directly, but I'm sure we could come up with a plausible explanation for that.  Any modders interested in pursuing that idea?
I never got the impression that Naija was or ever would be mentally compromised. I like the idea that Naija may have unknowingly created Mia; her version of Mia, that is. As you say, her powers are not fully explained. Then maybe the Mia that the Creator refers to is someone else. Then Naija's Mia and the real Mia could meet at a Starbucks and hash shit out. It's been a while since I played the game though, and Alphasoldier seems to think it might conflict with established facts, but maybe it's worth exploring further.

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« Reply #18 on: January 26, 2011, 03:59:22 am »
Actually, I do have a couple of works posted in the fanart section.

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« Reply #19 on: January 26, 2011, 05:56:14 am »
Count me in!  I'd love to see an Aquaria 2 mod.  I'd also love to help out anyone whose serious about going ahead on this.  Maybe not with moding-- it's not really my thing.  But perhaps in terms of art design, story design, dialogue writing-- stuff on the creative end if anyone needs it.
You should post some samples of your work. Or make a thread about your ideas for an Aquaria 2 mod. It might help get the ball rolling faster.

I rather like Nightmareshadow's suggestion that Mia could be a figment of Naija's imagination.  Who knows the extent of Naija's own powers?  Maybe she created Mia from her own dark desires and need for adventure.  There is the problem that the Creator refers to Mia directly, but I'm sure we could come up with a plausible explanation for that.  Any modders interested in pursuing that idea?
I never got the impression that Naija was or ever would be mentally compromised. I like the idea that Naija may have unknowingly created Mia; her version of Mia, that is. As you say, her powers are not fully explained. Then maybe the Mia that the Creator refers to is someone else. Then Naija's Mia and the real Mia could meet at a Starbucks and hash shit out. It's been a while since I played the game though, and Alphasoldier seems to think it might conflict with established facts, but maybe it's worth exploring further.

I kind of wanted to think that maybe Mia, the real Mia, the Mia that the Creator did create, since we see her face pretty clearly on the long wall, raised Naija as any mother would, trying to protect her and give her a good life.  Think about it, maybe she wiped Naija's memory to keep her away from the Creator so she wouldn't need to live in fear.  Then the real Mia dies and Naija's latent power manifests itself as the dark figure, urging Naija on with promises of power and adventure.  To rationalize it all, Naija turns the dark figure into a new version of Mia, since she couldn't cope with killing the little boy.  Then, Naija under her new Mia's control goes out and has more crazy adventures on the final frontier...LAND!

  Anyway, it's just a thought I had.  Not sure if I like the idea personally, since it would disregard Aquaria Sacrifice, which I did enjoy, even if it was a little...weird and out of place in the Aquaria universe(mainly things like the jabbering, crazy Lumerian.)
I'll keep asking for an Aquaria sequel until we get it, the sequel to the greatest Indie game of all times, and one of the greatest games period.

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« Reply #20 on: January 26, 2011, 06:16:18 am »
Ah... I got messed up with who Mia was. I haven't played the game in quite a while and for some reason thought that she was Naija's daughter. I think I should go play the game again.  ::)

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« Reply #21 on: January 26, 2011, 05:37:53 pm »
I kind of wanted to think that maybe Mia, the real Mia, the Mia that the Creator did create, since we see her face pretty clearly on the long wall, raised Naija as any mother would, trying to protect her and give her a good life.  Think about it, maybe she wiped Naija's memory to keep her away from the Creator so she wouldn't need to live in fear.  Then the real Mia dies and Naija's latent power manifests itself as the dark figure, urging Naija on with promises of power and adventure.  To rationalize it all, Naija turns the dark figure into a new version of Mia, since she couldn't cope with killing the little boy.  Then, Naija under her new Mia's control goes out and has more crazy adventures on the final frontier...LAND!

  Anyway, it's just a thought I had.  Not sure if I like the idea personally, since it would disregard Aquaria Sacrifice, which I did enjoy, even if it was a little...weird and out of place in the Aquaria universe(mainly things like the jabbering, crazy Lumerian.)
Only thing wrong with this, is that Mia was the one who got the ball rolling with Naija. As in, her shadow made her come out of her usual place. Why would Mia, the one who wanted to protect her daughter, appear as a shadow that would take Naija into danger? Even IF she's a manifestation of Naija's mind... it just doesn't make sense, sorry.

Now if it were an action of the creator to get Naija out of her cave I'd say yeah, Mia could be imaginary.

Oh and Sacrifice is still a fanmod, no matter how well it's worked out. :3
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Re: Aquaria 2 open source?
« Reply #22 on: January 26, 2011, 06:54:20 pm »
As far as ideas for a sequel go, I have thought of a couple ideas (like everyone else I'm sure).
I imagine it would be primarily Lucien's quest to locate his mother.  Li would show up too, possibly as a gadgeteer/advisor who gives you important information about the world, along with mechanical gadgets to help you along.   You'd have to include a major female character too, of course, since one of the biggest strengths of Aquaria is its female hero.  I'd suggest Lucien's girlfriend (let's call her-- I don't know-- Nani, for now).  I't'd be kind of neat to make her the bruiser of the game while Lucien is the more cerebral, gadget-using part of the team.

Mainly though, I like to think about what kind of levels you could put in a new game.  The underwater world was the biggest draw for me-- particularly the Kelp Forest and the Abyss.  But there's many, many more places a new game could go, such as:

MANGROVE FOREST:  Complete with big, arcing aerial roots to climb on.  Creatures would include:  Mimic octopi (that could change into facsimiles of other creatures), Manatees, Puffer fish, Sawfish, Crocodiles and Cownose Rays.  It would have a tide effect that would cause the water level to rise and fall like the pathway to the Sun Temple boss.

TEMPERATE TIDAL SHORE:  Lots of little pools along a rocky coast.  Hazards would include slippery wrackweed, sharp barnacles and dive-bombing seagulls.

HYDROTHERMAL VENTS:  Although Aquaria already has an Abyss level, a sequel could have more specialized deep-ocean settings.  Would feature Yeti Crabs, Tube Worms, Eelpouts and giant, sulfur-belching Mussels

RELIC SEA:  An isolated sea filled with prehistoric (Cambrian-age) animals like Anomalocaris, Opabinia, Wiwaxia, Hurdia Victoria, Bannfia, Odontogriphus, Eldonia, etc.

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« Reply #23 on: January 27, 2011, 12:42:53 am »
Actually, I do have a couple of works posted in the fanart section.
I just checked out your website. Nice stuff!

Have you done any digital painting with a graphics tablet? Your art style is colorful and fun and seems like a perfect fit for an Aquaria mod, is all.  ;)

I wonder, with all the comments Alec's made throughout the site, if he's described some of the story beyond the game already.

And I'm jealous that you've made a children's storybook. That was one of my dreams. Though it's never too late, I suppose.

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« Reply #24 on: January 27, 2011, 05:00:19 am »
Hey, thanks for the boss comments!
  I haven't used a graphics tablet yet, though I'd like to try one eventually.  It would definitely be interesting to try my hand at mod art.  Though someone else would probably have to do the actual game creation.  I'm good enough at computers that I could probably do it myself, but I know it would disappear amid all my other projects.

And no, it is never, ever to late to follow your dreams.... man, that sounds like an after-school special.  But it's true.  Have at it, I say.

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« Reply #25 on: January 27, 2011, 06:40:40 am »
If you decide to try digital painting, I recommend downloading MyPaint (http://mypaint.intilinux.com/), as it's the best open-source painting program I've seen and a real blast to play with, and buying an inexpensive Wacom tablet. It's awkward at first because you won't have the control you're used to with a pencil and paper, but you will eventually get the hang of it and then the fun starts. It's really nice being able to fix your mistakes and alter things after the fact. Plus, being able to manipulate colors without repainting a single thing is just plain awesome.

At one point, I thought about just creating a library of creature images and objects for people to use in their own mods. Food for thought.

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Re: Aquaria 2 open source?
« Reply #26 on: January 28, 2011, 05:00:19 am »
I have a graphics tablet but I'm more at ease with drawing, scanning, and moving the drawing into GIMP2.0, which is a free program with lots of help online. You can get lots of brushes free for GIMP also.
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« Reply #27 on: January 30, 2011, 08:17:14 pm »
You can get lots of brushes free for GIMP also.

Also, it can use Photoshop brushes.
check out my graphical overview of Aquaria recipes: