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Offline Don Andy

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Re: The ending, final boss, etc. [Obviously spoilers]
« Reply #75 on: December 16, 2007, 11:55:02 pm »
You can also use spirit form to "cheat" during the race in the seahorse cave.  Remember: in spirit form, time stops.
Spirit form also makes a nice scout; again, time stops, and you can still use the middle mouse button to look around, allowing you to spot potentially painful surprises further afield than usual.
Also, the last boss is so much easier with spirit form :p

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Re: The ending, final boss, etc. [Obviously spoilers]
« Reply #76 on: December 17, 2007, 12:23:04 am »
I agree that there has to be some connection between Li and the Sunken City since the boxes on the shore of Li's base camp have the same logos on them as the boxes in the Sunken City, don't they?

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Re: The ending, final boss, etc. [Obviously spoilers]
« Reply #77 on: December 17, 2007, 01:35:04 am »
Uh, the sunken city used to be a human city above water, and Li is a human. They share icons for that very reason, to show that the sunken city was once a human city.

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Re: The ending, final boss, etc. [Obviously spoilers]
« Reply #78 on: December 17, 2007, 02:48:21 am »
Has anyone else noticed that the verse can be heard in most of the background music in one form or another if you listen carefuly enough? I noticed it when I was cycling through musics with the ancient turtles the music in open waters is particularly prominent in verseyness.

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Re: The ending, final boss, etc. [Obviously spoilers]
« Reply #79 on: December 17, 2007, 04:55:43 am »
I believe there is a correlation between The Veil being hot, The Icy Veil being indifferent, the old human city being sunken and the humans migrating into the sky.

But that still doesn't explain Li, he has a change of clothes, a boat and a camp, but no other humans. God's sake, he ruins everything.
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Re: The ending, final boss, etc. [Obviously spoilers]
« Reply #80 on: December 20, 2007, 12:41:15 pm »
Hey, you know... Maybe something went wrong with human civilization? For instance, maybe there was a gigantic flood or something? Just as we are now endangered with - ice caps could melt and the world changed. It seems that Aquaria isn't rather our world, but who knows - maybe it's distant future of our planet? I'd rather believe that the name "Aquaria" is a name specific to this place and civilizations that were living in it, so they called it like that. We don't know anything about the surface, that it just exists. And also, we still don't know what secrets lurk beyond the darkness, deep in our planet's waters  ;)

I'm still beating the boss, though. And I just can't wait to see the final ending, but i lack the time to finish the game - my work is a big pain and consumes most of my lifetime :(

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Re: The ending, final boss, etc. [Obviously spoilers]
« Reply #81 on: December 20, 2007, 04:28:41 pm »
Has anyone else noticed that the verse can be heard in most of the background music in one form or another if you listen carefuly enough? I noticed it when I was cycling through musics with the ancient turtles the music in open waters is particularly prominent in verseyness.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Variation_(music)

Noticed it plenty, and was glad it was actually part of the main story too.  The Verse Theme is revisted in many forms throughout the soundtrack, up until it becomes a usable song. 
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Re: The ending, final boss, etc. [Obviously spoilers]
« Reply #82 on: December 20, 2007, 07:10:59 pm »
Yea that's how I picked up on how to play the song so quickly.  I know alot of ppl get stuck at what to do with the 3 vertical symbols.  The thing was, I had been trying to figure out the notes to play that song since the beginning of the game.  When it showed me the right order, I just instinctively knew at that point that it was in 3 "verses".

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Re: The ending, final boss, etc. [Obviously spoilers]
« Reply #83 on: December 23, 2007, 10:12:30 am »
my vote is the girl is their daughter, and the boy is their son, and the next game will involve their two quests, one underwater and one in the sky, which will seem separate at first but become intertwined.
I agree that the girl and the boy are likely children of Naija.  I think the intro picture is the explanation for everything.  It shows Naija captured in a blue crystal. This is the same way other creatures in the game are captured. It suggests that Mia did this to Naija so that Naija could not interrupt Mia's plans for conquest above the sea. But the son, without his mother, goes searching throughout Aquaria because his mother is gone.  Eventually he finds the crystal and touching it, just like Naija does in the main story with various creatures, he finds her there and gets information about what has happened, her memories become his. When in the story Naija is telling her story to you, it's really her telling her story to her son, now grown because as a baby he never had an opportunity to know.   He learns the story that you just played out through to the end. He's flying off to find Mia and confront her to get his mother back.

That's my theory anyway.  (This game is like a cross between Ecco and Metroid, though way better than Ecco; the large jellyfish in Mithalas look very much like a Metroid head sucker.) (I'm amazed at how large the game is, and I really appreciate an ending with substance, way better than the original Metroid.)
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Re: The ending, final boss, etc. [Obviously spoilers]
« Reply #84 on: December 23, 2007, 10:57:43 am »
I agree that the girl and the boy are likely children of Naija.  I think the intro picture is the explanation for everything.  I shows Naija captured in a blue crystal. This is the same way other creatures in the game are captured. It suggests that Mia did this to Naija so that Naija could not interrupt Mia's plans for conquest above the sea. But the son, without his mother, goes searching throughout Aquaria because his mother is gone.  Eventually he finds the crystal and touching it, just like Naija does in the main story with various creatures, he finds her there and gets information about what has happened, her memories become his. When in the story Naija is telling her story to you, it's really her telling her story to her son, now grown because as a baby he never had an opportunity to know.   He learns the story that you just played out through to the end. He's flying off to find Mia and confront her to get his mother back.

It's seems, that I had to agree with you - it's the most propable story explanation, yet only Derek and Alec will know the truth ;) But it's quite nice. Though, it's sad thing that Naija ends up like this :(, but I hold my fingers crossed that her children will finally free her and they will live happilly ever after. Btw - great story for a prequel :)

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Re: The ending, final boss, etc. [Obviously spoilers]
« Reply #85 on: December 23, 2007, 01:54:08 pm »
Right Clicking in Spirit form
allows you to absorb enemy projectiles, projectiles disappear in the process (effectively eradicating a source of damage)

Right Click works in a small radius. Area of Effect is around the "spirit" (blue orb you control)

for every 5 projectiles absorbed
HP is healed incrementally
5 projectiles do not have to be onscreen at a time in order to heal - absorbed projectiles are still counted toward the next time you absorb (therefore you can enter and exit spirit form several times in order to 'gather' enough projectiles to heal)

moving into projectiles will damage you, so don't get too close

btw you can collect blue healing particles in spirit form by moving over them

some more information:
if attempts are made to absorb an enemy projectile in which the enemy has been destroyed, projectile will not be absorbed

Sorry, loke, but absorbing projectiles definitely does not work in spirit form (I am running 1.0.3 of Aquaria). I have tried it several times and there is no effect at all.

If it worked in previous versions, I can't tell. If that was the case, then Alec either deliberately or accidentally removed it from the game. May be he can give us the answer.

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Re: The ending, final boss, etc. [Obviously spoilers]
« Reply #86 on: December 23, 2007, 02:15:03 pm »
Sorry, loke, but absorbing projectiles definitely does not work in spirit form (I am running 1.0.3 of Aquaria). I have tried it several times and there is no effect at all.

If it worked in previous versions, I can't tell. If that was the case, then Alec either deliberately or accidentally removed it from the game. May be he can give us the answer.
I'm using version 2007.12.17 (should be the most recent version) and used this ability on the first form of the final boss right now.  It's there all right.

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Re: The ending, final boss, etc. [Obviously spoilers]
« Reply #87 on: December 23, 2007, 04:25:34 pm »
Are you sure you're right-clicking?  You don't just absorb them you have to get close and right click.

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Re: The ending, final boss, etc. [Obviously spoilers]
« Reply #88 on: December 24, 2007, 07:26:26 am »
I just beat the game and that was one of the best (but darkest) endings I've ever seen. :o When Mia began explaining her plans all I could think was "That B*tch!"

I first thought that the black-haired girl was an adult Naija, but then I realized that Naija has white hair and she's more than likely fully grown at the start of the game. Why is her daughter so much taller than her, though? :P Also, what did The Creator mean when he said Naija loved a symbol of chaos, obviously referring to Li?

I'll be joining Quemaqua's wife in throwing rocks at both your houses if we don't get a sequel. If you end up not being able to make a sequel, at least tell us what you had planned for the rest of the story. ;D

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Re: The ending, final boss, etc. [Obviously spoilers]
« Reply #89 on: December 24, 2007, 01:28:27 pm »
Are you sure you're right-clicking?  You don't just absorb them you have to get close and right click.


Yeah, I'm pretty sure about right-clicking and getting close (is two pixels close enough? ;-) )

...maybe it is not possible to absorb specific kinds of projectiles. I used the ability on different shots in the Open Waters zone. Have you guys used it on other bullets than from the bosses?

As for the sequel: we don't need an entirely new game. Just use the mod editor to make some more levels and continue the story. That'll be fine for me.