The ending, final boss, etc. [Obviously spoilers]

[dhakkel]

So, I just beat it with all the memories, and man that was awesome. Unfortunately my machine stuttered all over the place from the.. 2nd form of the final boss onwards, so yeah that was on (or 5) infuriatingly long and slow fights for me! But they were very cool. All the plot stuff at the end was amazing, I didn't expect the God to be the little boy who "died" at the beginning. I only have one question: Who was the spirit that saved the boy?

And the Mia stuff (I assume this is the extra stuff that gets added when you get all memories? I didn't beat it without all memories so I'm not sure), whoah. I was so exhausted by the time I got to her I was saying to myself "please don't fight her please don't fight her", and yeah I'm glad she didn't. Kind of a cheesy "the end......?" ending really, but I don't see what else you could have done.

That human with clothes on and the Aquarian chick with black hair, are they both Naija's kids? I assumed the guy was but we didn't see that she had anymore so I'm not sure about the girl.

Also, does getting all treasures affect the ending? I have like 6 still to find, I'll probably do it but I'd still like to know if the ending changes in case I lose interest before I find them .

[lukich]

When I saw it I thought the guy flying away was Li.  There was definitely only one baby in the cutscene.

[dhakkel]

It's definitely possible, although the baby looked more human than Aquarian for the brief time I saw it (I think? I didn't get a good look at it.)

If it is Li then 1) He looks weird with clothes, and 2) Good job leaving your only child alone! What a great dad !

[Karn]

OH MY GOD SPOILERS, LIKE CRAZY BAD

I was actually thinking it might be Naija and Li's child. Like it's set quite far in the future, and they've decided to go and search for their mother (who to them would have just disappeared into thin air). They have green skin like Naija, but hair and features akin to Li, so... It makes sense that if it has both of their features it could very well be their now grown child.

[Zabycx]

The one flying away is definitely Naija and Li's son. If you finish the game without all the memories, after the credits, Naija tells you to go back and try again, as you were too focused on just the facts and not the memories of her childhood..."my son".

With all the memories, that is replaced by the Mia sequence, with the boy touching the memory crystal. As for the long black haired one on the bed, could be another child, but he looks different, and older. Don't think it could be Li, as he doesn't look human at all, and I don't think it is the first son, as he doesn't look half human/half whatever-Naija-is.

[Karn]

Yes, Mia's reference to "changing diapers and burping babies" (I think that's what it was) implies that Li and Naija had or planned to have had several children. However many they managed before the confrontation, however, is open to guessing. There could be very many, even, and perhaps in the next part we'll play all of them for a time. Very open-ended, and annoying like that, haha.

[The_GoldFish]

Yeah, maybe it's subtle, but I think you're actually supposed to be experiencing Naija's life (ie playing the whole game)through your child's interaction with the blue crystal in the "secret" ending, hence all the voice over stuff talking about things in past tence.

[lukich]

All valid points.  It makes sense that he would "fly" off, now that I think about it.  Mia never mentioned conquering the ocean world, she only wanted to conquer the "lands above the water."  The second person we see though, I thought it was a chick?  The one in the water.  Maybe that's an "evil Naija" *gasp?  That'd suck to have to kill your controlled mother. 

[icylace]

I just beat the game and got the secret ending and I am so amazed.  Everything from the last boss fight onward was especially epic times 10.  I loved how Mia turned out to be a bad guy and was a little creeped out when she started telling Naija about her ambitions and worldview while holding Naija.  I liked how we got a glimpse of a couple new characters for the promised sequel (I'm assuming the guy on the boat isn't Li).  And "The End" rune writing was a nice touch.

(on a complete tangent, I regard Aquaria's ending as highly as some of my other favorites such as those of Shadow of the Colossus and Zelda: Link's Awakening)

[dhakkel]

Hey, I'll post this here, too, seeing as all you guys have beaten it:

I made a new save to map out where treasures are and stuff, and guess what: I saved over my 16 hour save.

Could someone possible upload their save? I just need one with all the forms, I don't mind remapping everything but I just cannot force myself to do it without fish/beast form !

[Terry]

Hey, just out of curiosity, has anyone seen both endings? I.e. the ending with all the memories and the ending without them?

Does the ending without just stop before the final bit with Mia, or is it different entirely?

[ZCaliber]

Just beat the game...

All I can say is, well worth the 30. This is easily one of the best games I've played in a long time, and I REALLY REALLY hope it gets the recognition it deserves... At least enough to keep plans for a sequel from being dropped. >.> *Knocks on wood*

[wwarnick]

Yeah, maybe it's subtle, but I think you're actually supposed to be experiencing Naija's life (ie playing the whole game)through your child's interaction with the blue crystal in the "secret" ending, hence all the voice over stuff talking about things in past tence.

Hence the fact that he bee-lines to the boat and takes off: to save Naija (maybe).

You know, we don't know anything about Li.  All we know is that he happened to be in the Veil.  How did he get there?  Who is he?  I wonder if we'll find out more in the sequel.

wwarnick

[Don Andy]

Yeah, maybe it's subtle, but I think you're actually supposed to be experiencing Naija's life (ie playing the whole game)through your child's interaction with the blue crystal in the "secret" ending, hence all the voice over stuff talking about things in past tence.

Hence the fact that he bee-lines to the boat and takes off: to save Naija (maybe).

You know, we don't know anything about Li.  All we know is that he happened to be in the Veil.  How did he get there?  Who is he?  I wonder if we'll find out more in the sequel.

wwarnick

Well, we DO know about Li that he and Naija met before. Maybe just once, maybe even several times.
And we also know that Li, similar to Naija, was looking for answers when he was diving in the Veil (probably looking for the Sunken City). However, with just a Scuba Diving suit you won't get that far down :p

[dhakkel]

We do? How do we know that? I don't remember her saying she's met him before. She definitely hasn't been to the Veil before (I didn't know what was ahead, perhaps a boiling inferno end of the world etc speech she gives when she goes to the veil for the first time).