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Offline feralkoala

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Stuck in Song Cave
« on: June 08, 2010, 01:52:07 am »
I'm trying not to get spoilers, which is why I resorted to posting. I've been everywhere I possibly can, and I can't get the second song. I've been to the room with the two singers on the wall of the cave, with the four symbols underneath. I must say I found it very frustrating that this wasn't an obviously clickable object, as I had to come here to just find out that much. It looks simply like a background image. Anyway, I'm supposed to go to the door with the big spiral on the center and the 3 little triangles adorning the rounded top. But, what do I do once I get there? I've tried clicking everywhere on the door, and singing the song in various positions at the door, but nothing happens.
 
Have I missed something else? Should I be able to move the giant boulders blocking passageways at this point? Should I be able to move the big pearls? Also, how do I tell how much health she has? I've been able to make some food, but I have no idea if I need to eat it or when she's at max.

Gah. It's a lovely game, but like usual I end up getting stuck in places most people never do.
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Re: Stuck in Song Cave
« Reply #1 on: June 08, 2010, 02:07:47 am »
All you should need to do is be near the door and sing those 4 notes in order...

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Re: Stuck in Song Cave
« Reply #2 on: June 08, 2010, 02:29:32 am »
I spent the longest time in that exact position. Turns out I had been singing the notes in reverse order; something about the way the adjacent pictogram was pointing had thrown me off completely every time I went back to check.

Your second question will answer itself shortly, I think.

Your health is the little green bar which forms a semicircle around the minimap.

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Re: Stuck in Song Cave
« Reply #3 on: June 08, 2010, 03:13:11 am »
Hmm, it still doesn't work. What's the exact order then?

There's a blue circle, two green leaves pointing down, a yellow heart, and an orange sun.

Ahaha. Well I am dumb. It's a pink circle and not a blue one.

Blargh. I'm not doing well at this at all. After I get the energy form, there's no way to go back and save so I don't have to keep defeating the first statue over and over? I keep dying after about a minute in to the little shooty enemies.
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Re: Stuck in Song Cave
« Reply #4 on: June 08, 2010, 05:05:44 am »
If I'm correct, the notes actually glowed in the song cave wall when you tried singing them. :3

You should either go slower and make sure everything ahead of you is dead, or faster and not even try to kill anything as you thread your way between enemies and bullets. :3
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Re: Stuck in Song Cave
« Reply #5 on: June 08, 2010, 05:31:02 am »
By "the little shooty enemies", do you mean those damn little white shrimpy things? Man, screw those guys. Got more health than some bosses do. Personally, I just swim past and leave them alone.

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Re: Stuck in Song Cave
« Reply #6 on: June 08, 2010, 10:03:50 am »
Try Ctrl to shoot. I find it more easy and fast than using the left mouse button.
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Re: Stuck in Song Cave
« Reply #7 on: June 08, 2010, 12:59:17 pm »
Actually, how are you controlling? WASD+mouse, gamepad, just mouse...?

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Re: Stuck in Song Cave
« Reply #8 on: June 08, 2010, 07:45:09 pm »
You mean the right mouse button, Xiagan, unless you're left handed. :3
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Re: Stuck in Song Cave
« Reply #9 on: June 08, 2010, 08:51:33 pm »
I was, up until this point, using just the mouse. In retrospect, that was not at all a good idea. Trying to avoid being shot and shooting simultaneously resulted in me shooting at myself,  floating in the middle of an area being shot on all sides, or accidentally ramming into enemies. I've switched to mostly wasd for the energy form and it's worked much better, albeit a lot slower. I can't really do the wall dash/grab with the keys very well. I made to the 2nd? boss fairly quickly after that. I have yet to dispatch him. I've figured out how to do it, but I got swiped one too many times and called it a night.

And by shooty things I mean the white jellyfish things that spawn endlessly from the green glowing rocks. They shoot purple stuff.

I noticed the glowing on the first go. I must have thought the blue circle was glowing because of my proximity to the glyphs and the similar color to the background.

Thanks for the help.
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Re: Stuck in Song Cave
« Reply #10 on: June 08, 2010, 09:21:52 pm »
You mean the right mouse button, Xiagan, unless you're left handed. :3

I am. :)

(but I have my mouse usually on the right side, not always but most of the time)
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Re: Stuck in Song Cave
« Reply #11 on: June 08, 2010, 11:35:42 pm »
I was, up until this point, using just the mouse. In retrospect, that was not at all a good idea.
Also, the number keys are song shortcut keys. This can be extremely helpful during some of the boss battles.

When I first started, I didn't know about the keyboard shortcuts either. There's a help scrolling text thingy  (F1?) somewhere in the game with more information. I think it might be hiding on the map screen somewhere. I also didn't know you could open a map for a large portion of the game either. ;D

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Re: Stuck in Song Cave
« Reply #12 on: June 08, 2010, 11:39:47 pm »
I don't think the help screen even says anything about the number shortcut keys, does it?
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Re: Stuck in Song Cave
« Reply #13 on: June 09, 2010, 03:38:13 am »
No, doesn't say anything about it there.

Incidentally, here's the full text from that page:
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~ Aquaria Help File ~

Note: You can press F1 to view this screen whenever you have player control.

[Controls]
Aquaria is based on a two button input scheme.

By default, the Primary Button is the left mouse button or the space bar and the Secondary Button is the right mouse button or the CTRL key.

[Movement]
Hold the Primary Button to swim. You may also use the ASDW keys or the arrow keys to swim.

If you press and hold the button while the cursor is far away from Naija, she will perform a "speed boost". You can use these boosts to dodge. If you're using ASDW to move, you can tap the space bar to perform a "speed boost".

If you time a mouse button press at just the right time after starting a "speed boost", Naija will perform a "flourish".

If you aim a speed boost at a wall, Naija will hold onto the wall. When Naija is on a wall, you can speed boost away from the wall and she will perform a "wall boost". You can boost from wall to wall to travel faster.

Holding the Primary Button and moving the cursor around Naija will make her perform a "spin". This spin will pull certain things towards Naija, and, some cases, will cause other objects to react. Alternatively, you can hold the R key to spin.

[Singing]
Hold the Secondary Button to sing. By default, this is the right mouse button or the CTRL key.

When singing, eight notes will appear in the Verse around Naija. By moving the cursor to one of these notes, Naija will start to affect the world around her. Entities will react in various ways when Naija sings near them.

[Songs]
Throughout the game, Naija will learn various songs. These songs can be examined in the song section of the in-game menu. Use the Singing ability and select the notes of the song in the proper order to perform the desired song. Each song has a different effect on Naija.

[Interacting]
Certain objects in the game can be activated by Naija. The cursor will glow when it is over an object that can be interacted with. Simply use the Secondary button to interact with the object. Some early examples of interactive objects include Naija's kitchen, her bed, various areas where Naija can sit and Save Crystals.

[Saving]
Press the Secondary Button on a red Save Crystal to open the save menu. Select a save slot, and your progress will be remembered.

[Mini Map]
The Mini Map displays the area surrounding Naija. A gold circle represents the location of Naija's home cave. A red circle indicates the presence of a Save Crystal.

[World Map]
Double clicking the Mini Map will bring up the World Map. Here you can see all the areas that you have visited. By clicking on each area, you can see how much of it you have actually explored.

Click on the pyramids on the right hand side of the screen to add a new World Map Marker. These can come in handy for remembering certain features of the map. To remove a Marker, simply press the Secondary Button on it.

The large circles that appear on the World Map are called Beacons. Throughout the game Naija will find various hints that will give her a Beacon to a new area. If you find yourself lost and you're not sure where to go next, look for a Beacon on the World Map.

[Food]
Naija can create food by combining ingredients, or in some cases, other foods. In the Foods screen, drag at least two ingredients to the plates on the right side of the screen and click cook. You can check the recipes that you've learned by clicking the "Recipes" button.

Clicking the small bumpy button in the upper left corner of the Foods screen will sort your ingredients in different ways.

You can drag food to Naija's mouth or double click it to eat it. You can also drag food off the side of the menu or to the "X" plate to discard it into the world.

[Pets]
Pets can be selected by clicking the desired pet's egg in the Pets menu. To choose to have no active pet, simply click the pet that is currently active. Each pet has a different effect.

[Treasures]
Strange artifacts that catch Naija's eye are called "Treasures". Naija will collect treasures automatically when they are touched. You can view your collected treasures in the Treasures menu. Click the arrows above the treasures to change the current treasure page.

You can bring up a description of each treasure by clicking on its image. Some treasures can be used, simply click the "Use" button to do so.

There are many treasures in Aquaria - try to find them all!

[Additional Help]
If you are completely stuck, you're welcome to visit http://bit-blot.com/forum where you can request clues from fellow friendly players. :)

~ This concludes the help text available at this point in the adventure. Good luck! ~

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[Bind Song]
The bind song gives Naija the power to lift most spherical objects - for example, rocks. Simply sing the song near such an object to enchant it. Once enchanted, the rock will levitate and follow Naija. There are many uses for this song.

[Energy Form]
Changing into the Energy Form allows Naija to attack. When the Secondary Button is pressed, Naija will fire a single shot. To charge up multiple shots, hold the Secondary Button for a time, then release. There are other attacks that can be performed in this form as well, but those are up to you to discover!

[Revert to Normal Form]
To return to Normal Form from any form, simply press both Primary Button and Secondary Button at the same time. Alternatively, you can press the X key.

[Other Songs and Forms]
There are many songs and forms to discover in the waters of Aquaria. You'll have to discover their powers for yourself!

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Re: Stuck in Song Cave
« Reply #14 on: June 09, 2010, 03:40:13 am »
At least it points players to the forums instead of leaving them wondering what to do. :3
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