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Offline Azuu

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Pixel art
« on: October 01, 2007, 08:45:46 pm »
some people lately have been asking the question if pixels can be considered art, this game seems to blur the line like many others that have been recently released. I'm intrested in the idea but Im not sure how many people are.


So what do you think? Also which face is confused, I'm perplexed as to which one it is .

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Re: Pixel art
« Reply #1 on: October 02, 2007, 07:51:08 pm »
I think ??? is probably the closest equivilent.

Is there seriously a debate as to whether pixel art is Actual Art or not? A decent proportion of the work I submitted for my degree was pixel art; the likes of eBoy, Craig Robinson, Paul Robertson and Rich Stevens make a living as pixel artists, entirely independantly of computer games. Hell, I've sold prints of pixel art.

If you mean to ask whether games are art...well, that's another can of worms entirely, and not one I'm up for opening just this minute (I'm tired).

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Re: Pixel art
« Reply #2 on: October 03, 2007, 07:50:33 pm »
Yeah... Aquaria isn't even pixel art.
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Re: Pixel art
« Reply #3 on: October 21, 2007, 01:33:43 am »
I beg to differ! Art is any form of expression, wether it be music, story telling, carpentry, or in this case Aquaria. And Aquaria is composed of pixels! Wa-la!
 Pixel art!

Of course, if you change the definition of art, this may not be the case, but in my opinion, this game most certainly is a piece of art. 
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Re: Pixel art
« Reply #4 on: January 08, 2008, 11:28:53 pm »
Pixel art is a distinct style, see E-boy, where pixels are clearly visible and not subtle building blocks of the image.

Aquaria is not pixel-art by any means. Can Aquaria be considered as a piece of art? Definetly.

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Re: Pixel art
« Reply #5 on: January 09, 2008, 09:35:39 am »
Aquaria is basically a high-drawn graphics art game. Pixel art is yet another kind of style - when people started to make things that would look like characters from old-school games, because they loved when huge pixels filled whole the screen. And that's how pixel art was created.

Today, we could call anything pixel art, because some of us still forget that whole graphics is being rendered from single pixels - just decrease your windows resolution to 320x240 and you'll have pixel art all the time  :D. It's just a style of olders days, when low resolutions were all you could get on the screen, and some poeple later managed to distinct it into a type of art tightly defined by rules.

If you're interested in it, search Deviant Art for some good tutorials or look at Derek's site  ;)

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Re: Pixel art
« Reply #6 on: January 10, 2008, 02:49:07 am »
*quickly hops in the topic*
I have to say that I generally suck at normal art, I can't draw, not with pencils, markers or with a mouse, something I definitly CAN do is pixel art. I'm a classic gamer and I LOVE pixels, I love the old Mario, Metroid, Zelda and I love pixel'd web comics.
Yes, Pixel Art is also art, pretty much anything can be art, especially when you would look aroud in online galleries of paintings and statues and go wtf, cause they have the most weirdest choices of art. As one simple long cone with a sphere ontop costs around the 3K just cause it's "art".

Aquaria is definitly art, not pixel art. If you want a game with pixel art, which I think Alec and/or Derek also know it's Cave Story (Doukutsu Monogatari). It's also a very awesome game.
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Re: Pixel art
« Reply #7 on: January 10, 2008, 11:26:13 pm »
It may be in bad taste for me to do this for one of my first posts here, but it really is appropriate...

This is a screenshot from a game I'm working on. I didn't do the graphics, for the record.



I don't understand how someone could say this isn't art. Maybe, MAYBE you could say it's somehow "below" more traditional styles or techniques for making art, but I sure wouldn't.

I do, however, think you could make the case that some of the first video games' graphics wouldn't necessarily be considered art...

Maybe art is more what something is intended to be? A lot of old video games weren't trying to be artistic. Maybe pixel art  and/or video game graphics became "actual" art the first time someone intended them as such?

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Re: Pixel art
« Reply #8 on: January 11, 2008, 12:15:23 am »
woah, that's really good pixel art! How far is the game in progress? :)
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Re: Pixel art
« Reply #9 on: January 11, 2008, 12:25:18 am »
I'm expecting the game to take about 2 years to complete, and it's been... I think... 8 months so far? We just entered full production (from pre-production) actually.

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Re: Pixel art
« Reply #10 on: February 12, 2008, 05:18:19 pm »
I have to agree with p3ter_st0ry. everything can be seen as art. Even small rectangular (?) dots on a display.
Good examples would be: Megaman Zero series, Metroid, Castlevania, Terranigma, etc etc.
A lot of new DS games is the most beautiful 2D games I've ever seen.

And that's just the 2D ones, 3D also have pixels! Helvete, I don't have to list any artistic 3D games, do I?  :P
Anyway, it's all about what can be considered "pixel art".
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Re: Pixel art
« Reply #11 on: February 13, 2008, 01:18:11 am »
damn O_O
that was bootiful

can't wait for it to come out =D

reminds me of aveyond

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Re: Pixel art
« Reply #12 on: February 13, 2008, 03:51:49 am »
that preview looks gorgeous!  I prolly have about somewhere in the order of 300 to 500k ( file count, not file size ) in game sprites, cellphone graphics and other pixel art on this puter.  takes forever to do properties on the folders but it's around 5 gigs now. even wrote scripts so I could download them more efficiently. I dun care if it's art or not, it's all so beyootiful.
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Re: Pixel art
« Reply #13 on: February 13, 2008, 09:49:14 am »
reminds me of aveyond
Aveyond 1 was awesome, but I was a bit disappointed from Aveyond 2. Too easy, too short, more bugs, ...
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Re: Pixel art
« Reply #14 on: February 13, 2008, 10:19:00 pm »
reminds me of aveyond
Aveyond 1 was awesome, but I was a bit disappointed from Aveyond 2. Too easy, too short, more bugs, ...
I so agree..I didn't enjoy Aveyond 2 at all...-_-
I didn't like the story lol
the graphic was better than 1 though.