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Offline chokke

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Changing forms instant?
« on: January 06, 2009, 07:56:59 pm »
Well, I got this problem with this aweful temple sun-boss, he simply wont die, and using all consumables won't work either.
So I cheated a little bit and checked youtube for some help, and this guy was changing forms instant (filmtrick?  :D <- cute smileys), and it didn't seem like he struggled all that. How?

Got to admit I am not the kind who thinks outside the box (allthough, I did figure out all but one other boss by myself :) ), so I got a little bit to work on in this (awsome) game.
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Re: Changing forms instant?
« Reply #1 on: January 06, 2009, 08:05:37 pm »
Keyboard shortcuts. Use the top-row number keys.
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Re: Changing forms instant?
« Reply #2 on: January 06, 2009, 08:07:42 pm »
Or simply eat some energy form attack power ups and blast him to hell. Stick to the walls if he tries sucking you in.
I defeated him without knowing the shortcut keys. Took 3 tries though.
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Re: Changing forms instant?
« Reply #3 on: January 06, 2009, 08:11:10 pm »
Quote from: ZealousD on January 06, 2009, 08:05:37 pm
Keyboard shortcuts. Use the top-row number keys.
Guess this is a(nother) feature I've missed :) (simply love the smileys here  :-* ), how do one do that?
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Re: Changing forms instant?
« Reply #4 on: January 06, 2009, 11:56:05 pm »
Just hit one of the number keys when in the normal form!

That really ought to count as a cheat though, spamming shield button made the last few bosses much easier than doing it manually...
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Re: Changing forms instant?
« Reply #5 on: January 07, 2009, 12:01:57 am »
No! Don't give Alec any ideas!  :o  :) He already did away with the esc food cheat because one too many people mentioned it on the forums.  :P
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Re: Changing forms instant?
« Reply #6 on: January 07, 2009, 12:13:12 am »
Whoops.




Sorry... I'm not a real fan of the 8 amount per item limit. :P
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Re: Changing forms instant?
« Reply #7 on: January 07, 2009, 12:48:42 am »
Ah - so that's how the trainer works - I thought it just allowed you to eat without removing food from the cache.
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Re: Changing forms instant?
« Reply #8 on: January 07, 2009, 12:55:26 am »
I don't know, but the esc glitch most likely means you consumed an item before the game actually decreases the amount of that item.

I simply used a program called 'cheat engine' which allows you to scan a program for values and then modify them. That program can literally do anything you desire, I love it :P

Say I have 4 rukh eggs, I make cheat engine search for all occurrences of 4 then I toss away one rukh egg. Now I'm looking for all those values who's value was 4 first and then changed to 3. Repeat. After you've narrowed down which values hold the amount you simply change them to whatever you want.
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Re: Changing forms instant?
« Reply #9 on: January 07, 2009, 01:01:21 am »
That's neat - is there any danger of changing a critical value?
« Last Edit: January 07, 2009, 01:23:45 am by Chibi »
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Re: Changing forms instant?
« Reply #10 on: January 07, 2009, 01:16:10 am »
You can't 'remove' anything only modify already existing variables, however you very much can fuck things over. Lemme see what happens if I change it to a negative value...
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Re: Changing forms instant?
« Reply #11 on: January 08, 2009, 12:59:32 am »
Quote from: Cryzbl on January 07, 2009, 12:13:12 am
Whoops.




Sorry... I'm not a real fan of the 8 amount per item limit. :P
What :o But you really don't need all those eggs the game can be played and won with less than the full amount and the hunting is a big part of the games atraction to me so I will pass on that cheat... But really! lol
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Re: Changing forms instant?
« Reply #12 on: October 04, 2009, 01:34:43 am »
Cheat Engine would allow you to find the value in the memory of the game that you are looking for. For the cheaters:

  • All food values are of type byte
  • To avoid crashes, do not put more than 8 per slot
  • The food circle starts at the bottom (South) and goes counter clock wise: so if you manage to find the South most food slot number's memory address, you can start counting counter clock wise with the offset: 5C; There are total 16 slots
  • For those who are looking for static address so you don't have to scan it every time, scan and find this value: 02F30020 (don't forget to tick of Hax)
  • The address should be 0061077C with offset: 222C
  • follow that pointer and do it for 2 times: so 0061077C points to _____, which points to ______, which points to the south most food slot
  • It doesn't matter what page it is on, the memory will be updated correctly if you flip the page
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Re: Changing forms instant?
« Reply #13 on: October 11, 2009, 11:25:15 am »
Holy crap. Cheat Engine is like... like I'm cheating on a SNES game in zsnes... except... I'm not. I always figured this existed just never looked it up. I'm totally reinstalling and cheating on every game I've ever beat. lol
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Re: Changing forms instant?
« Reply #14 on: October 11, 2009, 02:23:39 pm »
Might I add that cheat engine is like... CHEATING?
Seriously though, I like cheat engine too. I'm pretty good with it too, but I surely don't use it until I finished the game completely.

And I believe zxnes uses Game Genie, Action Reply or Gameshark.
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