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Bubble cave help and questions
« on: February 24, 2008, 05:04:16 am »
I just can't beat the stupid lobster,I've been 3 days stuck in there already. I know what to do but the bombs explode before I can bind any, and Naija is not helping with her crazy bubble-jumping when I don't want her to move. And if I'm lucky and I can make him fall into the bubble with a bomb near (it happened only once because I can't do it fast enough) he rapidly turns to his place and I die before I can even eat something.
The thing is that I believe this is an optional boss or something like that, right? Then I'd like to skip it right away, but a friend of mine said that there's a valuable finding after killing him that could come in handy with the rest of the battles.
So I would like to know if there's an alternative way to beat this boss, if what I could miss is really that important, or if I can get it any other way.
Thanks and excuse my english, is not my language and I don't practice enough.

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Re: Bubble cave help and questions
« Reply #1 on: February 24, 2008, 05:43:52 am »
That's pretty much the gist of it.  You have to knock him down and subsequently bomb him.  The trick is, bind the bomb THEN knock him down.  Then use keyboard shortcuts to ket go of the bomb if you want to.  But frankly, you can survive a few hits from them.  As for the prize you get, yes you will want it.  But it's not necessary.  Just a health egg.

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Re: Bubble cave help and questions
« Reply #2 on: February 24, 2008, 12:06:50 pm »
On the left side below of him is a bubble with some tadpoles in it. If you sing to them, they stick to you and regenerate you permanently. That may help you staying alive. ;)

btw, how much health do you have if you die always before you can eat something (=so fast that you aren't able to press esc).
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Re: Bubble cave help and questions
« Reply #3 on: February 24, 2008, 12:51:50 pm »
I already use shortcuts, and I tried different strategies but nothing works for me.
If I bind a bomb first and change with shorcut to plant form, when I'm shooting a seed to make him fall the bomb explodes on me before he is in the bubble. And if I make him fall first when I can bind a bomb he turns back to his place.
And in that one occasion that there where a couple of bombs around him , it made him no damage and he jumped back to his place while I instantly died.
Has anyone been able to beat the game without this health egg?

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Re: Bubble cave help and questions
« Reply #4 on: February 24, 2008, 01:15:09 pm »
Sure you can, if you have the other health eggs...

I recommend nevertheless you try again, because it'll help you later on, if you get better with the controls....

SPOILERS!

basically order of operation for the lobster guy is:

bind bomb,
switch to nature form,
charge seed above him,
swim around him until bomb explodes,
switch out of nature form,
repeat,
repeat,
dance,
chow down on some hearty sea loaf!

My OoO was slightly different:
Bind bomb
Go nature
Spike the boss
Frantically tap 'X' (switch out of nature form)
Put up a shield
Hang out near boss
Laugh
Repeat
Repeat


Boss:      Hyper Lobster
Location:   Bubble Caves
Attacks:   Explosives - The Lobster launches several of these slow moving explosive
      devices at you from his perch on the ceiling. When they come into contact
      with you or a wall they explode and release a circle of small yellow energy bolts.
Hints:      He looks pretty comfy on his bit of land there. If only there was some way of
      turning nature against him?
      Those bombs look nasty. Much more damaging than anything you can fire at him!
Guide:      Pretty easy when you know how, but you'll probably still take a bunch
      of damage, so come prepared.
      Begin by binding one of his bombs as he fires them at you. It'll trail behind
      you and slowly get redder until it explodes! Before that happens, quickly
      switch to nature form.
      Fire a seed spike thing (right-click charge) at his position and it'll knock
      him off his perch into the bubble you are in. Get out of the way! Once he's
      stuck there, either swim around him in circles until the bomb explodes (if you
      are far enough away you can easily dodge the bolts) or if you have time, switch
      to normal form and unbind the bomb. Either way, if it explodes near him it
      damages him.
      Once this is done, he'll shreik out and jump to the ceiling again. Simply repeat
      this twice more to get your (hopefully) final health upgrade!
Rewards:   Health Egg.
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Re: Bubble cave help and questions
« Reply #5 on: February 24, 2008, 01:41:53 pm »
Thanks for your help but I still think there's no way I can do this. After all I've been 3 days stuck here trying everything and failing miserably. I don't know how you all can go that fast to bind, swim, charge, shoot etc. in my laptop I just can't.
I think this game is too difficult sometimes (jumping sun temple walls, getting rukh egg...) but now it's just impossible, really not fun anymore. Too much for a casual gamer I guess.
I'll try one last time because I see I won't make it without all the eggs, but if I fail again I'll just skip it.

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Re: Bubble cave help and questions
« Reply #6 on: February 24, 2008, 03:34:02 pm »
You can hit 4 to switch forms to nature form, or hit 0 for bind. 1 turns you back to normal

You don't NEED the health egg to beat the game, but its sure useful

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Re: Bubble cave help and questions
« Reply #7 on: February 24, 2008, 05:37:38 pm »
If I had a save ANYWHERE near him I would screw all this controversy once and for all and just make a damned video.  Does anybody have a save file anywhere near this boss?  Better yet!  YOU!  Person who can't beat it!  Just give me your save file so I can make a video.

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Re: Bubble cave help and questions
« Reply #8 on: February 24, 2008, 06:17:01 pm »
I know that 4 is nature form and 1 normal, I've  already done that, and I know the different strategies to kill him, I just can't go fast enough, and is too difficult to control Naija for me.
I could give you my save file but I'm not sure which one, if its saved in "slot 2" should I give you "save-0001" or "save-0002", knowing that there's also "save-0000"? Even though you show me what to do I still think I couldn't.

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Re: Bubble cave help and questions
« Reply #9 on: February 24, 2008, 08:14:04 pm »
Well, he can show you AND give you the save-file from after the boss if you want, I think...
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Re: Bubble cave help and questions
« Reply #10 on: February 24, 2008, 08:37:55 pm »
Just upload the batch.  It's not like save files are huge.

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Re: Bubble cave help and questions
« Reply #11 on: February 24, 2008, 09:12:42 pm »
This is my entire save folder :
aqsave.zip

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Re: Bubble cave help and questions
« Reply #12 on: February 25, 2008, 05:35:20 am »
http://rapidshare.com/files/94705082/BossLobster.wmv.html

There you go.  One video of how to beat him.  You'll notice, I don't leave it up to chance whether or not the bombs explode in time.  I JUST RUN SMACK INTO THEM!  If you make sure to get those helpful little tadpoles to the lower-left of the boss room, you'll survive the 3 hits it takes to beat him.  Sorry I only got 2 hits on tape, Fraps only let's you record 30 seconds at a time.

Do you understand how to beat him now?  Shield (for precaution's sake), Bind, Change, Charge, Shoot, Change back, un-bind, RUN INTO BOMB, repeat.  Hope this helps.

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Re: Bubble cave help and questions
« Reply #13 on: February 25, 2008, 05:40:23 am »
You really don't have to be so quick dude, the bombs take a decent amount of time to go off. The only reason I can think of this being hard speed-wise is if you're using the touch pad, in which case this whole game is gonna be a mission to complete.
Do you use WASD to move? That might help...
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Re: Bubble cave help and questions
« Reply #14 on: February 25, 2008, 05:53:30 am »
Were you talking to me about being quick?  I already said I was trying unusually hard to be speedy because Fraps trial-version would only let me record 30 seconds at a time.

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