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i need help im stuck in the sun temple!!!!!!
« on: May 16, 2009, 09:09:25 am »
im stuck  in the sun temple....
i need go up but i dont know how i can jump on the gear pls help srry for my inglish im from venezuela..
soo help me :(

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Re: i need help im stuck in the sun temple!!!!!!
« Reply #1 on: May 16, 2009, 02:47:10 pm »
You want to be swimming right next to a gear, and then start rolling (in the water). There's a button for it, default is R I think.

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« Reply #2 on: May 17, 2009, 12:23:48 am »
You can go near the gear (after y0u get the message to click left and move Naija around) and press "R" so she can roll and affect the gear, or physically move her around and you will hear the gears engage.

I am stuck here too because I keep trying to get the water level to go up, which it does (there's a clink that lets you know you're done, I surmised), and then when I try to swim up the water level comes crashing right back down again. How do you keep it up there, or are you supposed to? Spoiler: Or down to the right level to move the blue jewel to the left? I haven't been playing for awhile because I can't seem to get to the right place to move the jewel.

Also can't get up the chimney to the right of the veil in search of rukh eggs; she just falls back down the second she touches the wall. Or, I'm just really bad at this wall-jumping thing, even using the space bar with my left hand and the mouse in my right. Using beast form. Getting tired of swimming around and killing things, and I could open an underwater restaurant with all the recipes I have; eight arcane poultices and two special bulbs to make more, for example.
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Re: i need help im stuck in the sun temple!!!!!!
« Reply #3 on: May 17, 2009, 02:08:37 am »
omg thanks a lot =) :)

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« Reply #4 on: May 17, 2009, 06:16:59 pm »

I am stuck here too because I keep trying to get the water level to go up, which it does (there's a clink that lets you know you're done, I surmised), and then when I try to swim up the water level comes crashing right back down again. How do you keep it up there, or are you supposed to?

Roll until the gear has momentum, then stop rolling. If you keep rolling all the way until the end, the gear will roll again and bring the water back down.

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Spoiler: Or down to the right level to move the blue jewel to the left? I haven't been playing for awhile because I can't seem to get to the right place to move the jewel.

Te sun jewel starts out at the utter right, (when you first encounter it) and you need to bring it to the utter left, the room where it needs to go is connected to the rest of the temple only via one up-down tunnel. There are sun rays shining through a hole in the stone ceiling.
To get it there,
move the veil up,
move the jewel to the left of the room,
move the veil down,
move the jewel to the left of the lower chamber, below the path that leads to an other upper chamber,
move the veil up,
move the jewel to the left, over a path that leads to the same room as the gear that controls the veil.
move the veil down, now the jewel is close to the control gear,
move the jewel to the utter left, inside the side path,
move the veil up, now the jewel is in the charge-up room.
move the jewel to the left, below the sun rays, then let go, and the jewel should fall out.

Now bind the jewel and swim down to the dark path, while the veil is in the high position. You only need the jewel to see in the dark, once you've opened the locked song-door, and moved to the left side of the temple and up, you no longer need it. After you've gained the sun form, you no longer need it at all.

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Also can't get up the chimney to the right of the veil in search of rukh eggs; she just falls back down the second she touches the wall. Or, I'm just really bad at this wall-jumping thing, even using the space bar with my left hand and the mouse in my right. Using beast form. Getting tired of swimming around and killing things, and I could open an underwater restaurant with all the recipes I have; eight arcane poultices and two special bulbs to make more, for example.

This is a tricky thing to do, you need to jump away from the wall, into the opposite wall, before Najia lets go of the wall on her own. So you have to quickly move your mouse to the left, click, then quickly move the mouse to the right, click, etc. For your convenience, there is a break halfway, and the second part chimney is a bit easier, with a couple of slopes.

If you think this is hard, then getting the memory at the top of the sun temple is going to be a murder, imagine a chimney consisting of two perfectly straight up walls, and is a lot wider. I know it was difficult for me to get there, and still is, despite having been there several times already.
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Re: i need help im stuck in the sun temple!!!!!!
« Reply #5 on: May 17, 2009, 08:51:28 pm »
Wow, thanks for all the really specific help! I will let you know how it goes. Yahoo!
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« Reply #6 on: May 17, 2009, 09:19:00 pm »
You don't fall off of walls that are angled even the slightest bit upwards, so you have all the time in the world to aim if you land on such a slope. Hope that helps.

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« Reply #7 on: May 18, 2009, 08:04:42 pm »
Great hint, thanks. I have two fussy near-dead laptop mouses (one only a week old)  so I'm waiting for a new one before venturing through the sun temple and the right veil rukh chimney (no, it's not batteries). Thanks for the help!!!
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« Reply #8 on: May 20, 2009, 02:51:38 am »
Okay, got sun form and shot out of the top of the temple but got no memory; is the story about the Lemurians the memory? I'm not getting the cutscenes anyway for some reason; nothing at the third cooking slot in Mithalas, or coming out of Mithalas (2nd Mia) or going into the veil. The sun worm guy was really easy to kill. But I don't think I've come to the wide straight-walled room; the shaft up was full of water to take me to the worm on the right, and once I dived into that part of the veil that has been unavailable (I snuck out earlier and found the tortoise) I didn't know if I was supposed to go back and had a meditation meeting so I stopped. Went and played in the Abyss a little. Boy, those translucent flower-like jelly creatures are murder! Anyway I don't think I've found the place where you have to wall-jump in the sun temple.
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« Reply #9 on: May 20, 2009, 11:11:56 pm »
The memory is gained at the very top of the sun temple, actually, it is inside of the veil area, but above the sun temple.  The easiest way to reach it is through the sun temple.

When the veil inside the sun temple is at the highest level (using the second control gear) There are still 2 rooms that are dry, these are full of turning gears. You need to wall jump up via the utter left path, into the first gear room, then jump from gear to gear, then enter the second room, and jump from gear to gear to the top most water bubble in the upper right corner. Then exit the sun temple area through the top. You will now find yourself inside a very wide glass chimney (in the veil area). If you can wall jump upward, you'll eventually enter a very large water bubble at the very top of the veil area, just below the white clouds. This is where you gain the second memory.
The reward for this very difficult course is a cutscene, so if you can't see those anyway, you may want to fix that first.

Alternatively, you can briar jump from the rock-nest cliff all the way to overhanging cliff near the sun temple entrance, then briar jump up from the side of the glass  chimney. This is a lot more difficult, and unintended, also dangerous, because if you fall between the wall and the glass, you'll be stuck.
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« Reply #10 on: May 21, 2009, 08:11:18 am »
Okay, thanks. How do I fix the fact that I'm not getting the cutscenes? I PM'd Alec a couple of weeks ago; no answer, and posted the info as a separate thread in ganeplay; no responses. What could cause that? I've jumped out of the worm god's lair three times; twice landed on the roof but couldn't get to the entrance from above. Is the bubble above the worm guy's cave or to the left? I'm not very good at wall-jumping although I got the special bulb from the right-hand passage in the worm guy's boudoir. Not very good at bubble-jumping either although I got the urchin costume. Guess I need lots of practice with a better mouse (one on order). Thank you, Seven Mass.
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« Reply #11 on: May 23, 2009, 03:49:29 pm »
I've jumped out of the worm god's lair three times; twice landed on the roof but couldn't get to the entrance from above. Is the bubble above the worm guy's cave or to the left?

No, the sun worm is off track. Once you've defeated the worm, and gotten all of the songplants in his lair (wall jumping again)  There is no longer any need to go there. Take a look at this thread and download the PDF, pages 28 and 29 will give you a clear overview.  The exit you need  to find is the directly above the songplant that gives a turtle soup.

Be careful, that document is full of spoilers.
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« Reply #12 on: May 23, 2009, 06:38:52 pm »
Again, thanks for the specific advice; you've made a great effort here and I appreciate it. I've ended up on the roof of the temple a couple of times and tried to get inside that way but no luck; probably a waste of time since I haven't encountered a memory since the very first Mia at the beginning of the game. I get the cutscenes when I defeat a boss, but nothing else. I never even got the dream stuff when Naija first lies in her bed at home. I don't know if Alec knows why either. Anyway I got the gear and the sun key and I don't think I'll be back here; got the turtle soup recipe from Strategy Wiki ( I never turn down a spoiler, being generally clueless about games like this, but stubborn).
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