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General / Re: Consider updating the pricing

« on: February 13, 2011, 06:53:31 pm »

Steam sales bring in a massive influx of new buyers who otherwise wouldn't notice your game.

http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/2010-08-19-steam-saved-our-bacon-introversion


I paid $20, and it was worth $20 to me, but I'm *rabid* about non-linear exploration games and simply felt that I had to have it.  You'll get far more interest by cutting the price.

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General / Re: Possible to finish Sunken City without light-up form?

« on: February 11, 2011, 06:57:40 pm »

Besides the fact that you won't be able to go to a certain point because of the thing you missed, and that you need to use that form in the final battle, I think it'd be wise to go grab it before going further at all.
It's not possible finishing the game without it. Unless Dumb... wait, what? Did you defeat the octopus without sun form? O_o

It's not technically possible to finish Super Metroid without beating all the bosses, either (short of outright glitching the game), but that's not the point of sequence breaking.   The point is to screw with the order in which you attain powers and the means in which you progress through areas as much as possible.

Also, hmm, that's an interesting question.  Would having Dumbo as a pet provide enough light to move the ghostly boy?  If so, I should probably try and get enough Dumbo Ice Cream to defeat the Octopus without sun form...

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General / Re: Possible to finish Sunken City without light-up form?

« on: February 10, 2011, 05:16:06 am »

!!!!!

Eureka.

Dumbo Ice Cream should do the trick.

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General / Re: Possible to finish Sunken City without light-up form?

« on: February 09, 2011, 05:22:15 pm »

My general M.O. is to explore as much as possible with what I've got, until I see that I can verifiably go no further without upgrading.

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General / Possible to finish Sunken City without light-up form?

« on: February 09, 2011, 07:26:16 am »

After finishing the Energy Temple and Kelp Forest and then exploring the Abyss, someone suggested I check out Mithalas next... that gave me Energy Form, which in turn got me into the Veil, which then gave me Li... so now I have access to the Sunken City (via Li) and the Frozen Veil.

Problem: Light-up Form appears to be required to progress in the Sunken City.  I say "appears to be" because it's possible I'm missing something; the little boy runs into the darkness, and there aren't any glowy fish around that I can lead down there with my songs.  Is there a way around this problem for those of us who are doing Sunken City but don't have Light-up form yet?  Or am I off to Frozen Veil next?

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General / Re: Stuck in the Abyss, how to get back out?

« on: February 06, 2011, 08:44:39 pm »

Huh!  For me, it was fairly obvious that the Abyss was designed to allow you to explore it without the 'light up the whole place' form -- what I figured was that beating the Abyss that way would unlock the 'light up the whole place' form.


You have two entrances into the Abyss via Open Waters; the first gives you a taste of what you're in for, the second gives you the tools (light-up fish that circle you in different patterns according to which song you sing) to get down there.  You have to dodge the spikes yourself, and vary up your songs as you progress to make sure your glowy fish avoid the nasty little carnivorous plants that will eat them.  Eventually you get down there, and you find a save point, more light-up fish in case you've lost any, and the cavern starts lightening up a bit.

And then, later on, you have the stationary glowy things that you can put in bubbles via fish form, allowing you to drag them around with the Bind spell, which in turn attracts Jellyfish to follow you and light the way.  It's slow-going progress, sure, but it feels just about 'right' in terms of challenge level.

Is there anything stopping me from finding the Abyss' entrance to the Frozen Veil, at the moment?

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General / Re: Stuck in the Abyss, how to get back out?

« on: February 06, 2011, 12:22:57 am »

I have the turtle in the Abyss tagged already.

Can I access the Ice Veil yet?  Have just beaten Energy Temple and and the Kelp Forest.

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General / Re: Stuck in the Abyss, how to get back out?

« on: February 05, 2011, 10:23:05 pm »

Okay, so I made it back to open waters...  but while I was down in the abyss, I did find a King Jelly miniboss down there.  Seemed damn tough (was barely able to get it to final form, using just Energy Form, would probably take a lot of practice to beat it currently), does beating it reward anything that would make it worth my time to learn it now rather than coming back later?  (i.e. does it give me a power that allows me to unlock new areas?)

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General / Re: Stuck in the Abyss, how to get back out?

« on: February 05, 2011, 09:41:30 pm »

Hmm... fish form + carrying spell + jellyfish makes for an interesting sort-of-solution to this.  Incredibly tedious (since the jellyfish flee the second you switch to fish form, but just might do the trick.)

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General / Stuck in the Abyss, how to get back out?

« on: February 05, 2011, 09:32:45 pm »

So I'm a little disappointed with the design of the abyss, to say the least.


I start the game, finished Energy Temple, finished Kelp Forest, and so then the Abyss looks fun.  The game gives me all the tools to get down to the bottom, it's a minor challenge but good times along the way.

And then:  Impossible-to-open door.  She's "seen the symbol before", great, it won't open.

These sort of arbitrary blocks on non-linear progress are annoying (especially since the game implied that if I wanted to head down this way, I totally could)... but what's more annoying is, I have no way to get back up to Open Waters and explore a different area.  I saved down here, and it's total darkness between me and that turtle higher up in the Abyss that will take me home.  Tried about 10 runs, no luck.  Anyone have a map of the abyss they can share?