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Aquaria => Gameplay => Topic started by: durrem on December 16, 2007, 07:30:04 pm
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I suck at Simon Says. How many colors do you need to hit to beat it? I've been trying for half an hour. lol
Sometimes it seems like I do the right combination and I mess up anyway...
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It also does it really fast and so its hard for me to see what the colors are.
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I feel your pain. I had a headache after half an hour. I found it very annoying and I was sure that I did it right some time and it still was wrong. I think you need 8 notes. It helped me to give numbers to them and speak out the numbers loud... :P
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uhm, smjjames, You noticed the thing has 8 notes, placed exaclty like you have your notes displayed, so you don't have to mind the colours, just the position of what blinks quickly.
Oh, and if you want to know what happens when beating him again, you just get food. First I got a Sea Cake, then a Small Bone and then a Small Egg, I could guess that you get better thing when you win after eachother or when you win more often, but i didn't want to go through the trouble of beating him over and over.
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Actually, first you get [Spoiler]the ability to cook three ingredients without needing a kitchen.[/Spoiler].
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Actually, first you get [Spoiler]the ability to cook three ingredients without needing a kitchen.[/Spoiler].
Actually, I said when you beat him AGAIN.Oh, and if you want to know what happens when beating him again, you just get food. First I got a Sea Cake, then a Small Bone and then a Small Egg,
It's propably randomly chosen though.
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Actually, first you get [Spoiler]the ability to cook three ingredients without needing a kitchen.[/Spoiler].
Actually, I said when you beat him AGAIN.
I noticed. However you didn't said what you would get first. So you passed the impression that there was no point bothering beating the thing.
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8 digits is technically longer than human memory is designed for (7 digits is the average human's ability to remember sequences, and hence why most phone numbers are exactly seven digits long). Considering the speed required, the fact that the pattern is randomized (so you can practice, write it down, etc), there's no amount of skill or practice can make you overcome a memory deficiency :( I've gotten up to 6/7 consistently and forgotten the very first digit every single time (I spent over an hour working on this). That combined with the annoying tendency for the pattern to mimick a transformation and put you in one of your forms unable to sing or transform in time it makes for a very annoying experience. Sure, it's only a minor bonus in the game, but it's still very annoying none-the-less and one of the few things so far I don't like about the game.
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I enjoyed it. If it had been any easier, I'd have gotten it on the first or second try, which would have been stupid. The challenge was more fun for me. It wasn't easy, but I prefer it that way since there's no negative for losing and you can instantly try again. I think I got it within 10 or 12 tries.
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I hated it too. Try the way I did it (explained above).
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I tried to get my girlfriend to solve it for me, as she's usually very good at these things. She couldn't solve it either, and actually got very frustrated at me for making her try it...
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Well, it IS a pretty nifty extra you get from it, so you're not really supposed to just walk in, collect the thing and walk out again just like that.
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I think the biggest pain in the ass was, as I (like usually when I have to play simon says in a video game) tried to write down what i have to mimic... but it didn't work 'cuz of the time limit.
Anyway it was fun for me^^ If you don't like it, don't play it - it's only optional.
Here are some things that might help you:
1: the Visual thing: draw in youre mind a line from each "note-colour-circle-whateveritscalled" and try to remember the geometrical form. Or at least try to remember the geometrical form of the first 3 or 4 notes, so you dont have to remember every single note. only the last 4.
2:the musical thing: just try to sing along the melody. if you play an instrument it shouldn't be very hard (worked very well for me)
3:the Teamwork thing: let a friend help you - let him remember the first 4 notes and you remember the last 4 notes. Pretty easy.
So stop crying like an emo and get it done.
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ehhh.... the music game seems very easy for me.... is it that difficult to you guys? haha , just kidding. :P
as eric monk said, you can solve it by remembering the positions, the melody, or just ask friends to help you.
i still think it's not so difficult, for it increases only one note every turn. you just need to remember one more note. 8 notes won't be such a trouble. ^_^v
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Just keep doing it until he throws you an easy one. Once I got 4 notes of the same colour in a row, haha.
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What's the point of posting just to tell us that we're wrong to not like it? Great, you got it. We didn't. I've tried about thirty or forty times now and still don't have it.
I do appreciate the advice (the whole reason I looked up this thread) from people like Eric, but the attitude is just rude and not very nice (sorry if that's too emo for you...you just pushed my buttons--probably doesn't help that I've spent over an hour trying to do this freaking thing).
Anyway, enough of my whining. Thanks for the help. I'm going to go try again.
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It put me in a very bad mood too and I accidently got in a little quarrel with my gf because of it.^^
Wait for a good sequence or try one of the tipps, not much else you can do... :-/
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See it as a mini-Dr.-Kawashima's-Brain-Training!
It took me a while as well, often when I'd gotten an easy sequence I'd be too much in a hurry and screw up. I'm no good at remembering random patterns. :\
Just keep trying and it will work, no matter how frustrating it may be.
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his roaring is admonishing you for not excelling.
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1: the Visual thing: draw in youre mind a line from each "note-colour-circle-whateveritscalled" and try to remember the geometrical form. Or at least try to remember the geometrical form of the first 3 or 4 notes, so you dont have to remember every single note. only the last 4.
This works best, imo. As Utopianh pointed out, 8 bits of information stretches the capacity of human short-term memory, so the way to get around this is to "chunk" the different bits... if you have three different colors that happen to be in a row, for example, you can chunk this into one bit or memory: "3 notes counterclockwise from here". This allows you to keep track of the old notes while remembering the new ones, and you also quickly get a "feel" for where you're supposed to move next.
Granted, some patterns are more conducive to chunking than others (you can have sequences with no real geometric interpretation), but those patterns are more rare than you'd think. It took me three tries to complete the challenge because I managed to compress the information somewhat.
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I think I got it in the second or third try....no worries... >_<;;
Is it hard? Maybe I'm just a natural. ::)
Um, I found that I'd remember the sounds of the notes, make it into a song in your head. Even hum it as you go, that might help ya. ;)
Maybe its just because I know the sounds of the notes quite well, since I like hearing them and stuff.
And remember: its not so hard to remember 8 notes since you re-do the first ones over and over, so try to remember clearly what you heard those 7 other times you went through and then all you have to remember is the last note. ;)
Good luck.
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not sure if the Simon says beasty counts as a boss but my strategy with him was to count off the notes ( 1 - 7 ) in the *tones* they were ordered. it made an immediate short term memory pattern and my only problem was co-ordination and speed. it took quite awhile for me to gimp my way up to the beasty's speed and that was just trying to be patient and taking his roaring at me as a scolding reprimand, not as a hostile attack. also I was completly level with him with my notes just a fraction away from his lil eyeballs.