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Title: Aquaria Config crashes when clicking Launch
Post by: Pieter on May 13, 2010, 08:13:33 pm
I got Aquaria as part of the Humble Indie Bundle. I installed it, but Aquaria Config crashes as soon as I click Launch. Is this a known issue?

My settings are VSync on, fullscreen off, frame buffer effects off, gamepad disabled and 800x600 resolution. I'm on Windows XP. My graphics card is part of the Intel Extreme Graphics family.
Title: Re: Aquaria Config crashes when clicking Launch
Post by: Alec on May 13, 2010, 09:02:07 pm
Do you have the latest drivers for your graphics card installed?
Title: Re: Aquaria Config crashes when clicking Launch
Post by: Pieter on May 14, 2010, 10:30:51 am
I think so. Windows Update doesn't have a newer version.

(http://img203.imageshack.us/img203/5308/driverh.jpg)
Title: Re: Aquaria Config crashes when clicking Launch
Post by: NeatNit on May 14, 2010, 11:42:07 am
get it from intel, not windows update.
Title: Re: Aquaria Config crashes when clicking Launch
Post by: Pieter on May 14, 2010, 12:14:12 pm
I found a more recent driver here (http://downloadcenter.intel.com/SearchResult.aspx?lang=eng&ProductFamily=Graphics&ProductLine=Laptop+graphics+controllers&ProductProduct=Mobile+Intel%C2%AE+915GM/GMS,+910GML+Express+Chipset+Family&ProdId=1862&LineId=1101&FamilyId=39) (from 2007), but the installer returns an error. Since the error message is in Dutch, I'll paraphrase it for you:

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The driver that is being installed, is not validated for this computer. Ask your manufacturer for the correct driver. The installer will now quit.

If I go to Dell's website, I only find outdated drivers.
Title: Re: Aquaria Config crashes when clicking Launch
Post by: Lady-Succubus on May 17, 2010, 12:22:48 am
All of Intel's drivers do that the first time you move away from the computer manufacturer's drivers. ^.–

Can you see if you can download the zip file of the same driver, extracting it, and then manually updating your drivers with one of the folders in the archive (I can't remember which one it is)?
Title: Re: Aquaria Config crashes when clicking Launch
Post by: Pieter on May 17, 2010, 07:59:36 pm
Alas, it seems that I can't do a manual install from Device Manager. Windows doesn't recognize any of the folders (I also tried subfolders) as a folder that contains a valid driver.
Title: Re: Aquaria Config crashes when clicking Launch
Post by: Lady-Succubus on May 17, 2010, 10:39:46 pm
I believe there were two ways to manually install--you have to try both.

Did you try both the "have disk" method and the "manually install driver" method?
Title: Re: Aquaria Config crashes when clicking Launch
Post by: Pieter on May 18, 2010, 07:05:40 pm
You mean the "I will manually select my driver" option?

(http://img232.imageshack.us/img232/4268/secondoption.jpg)

That works, but is it safe to install the driver like that? The wizard says something about how if I select my driver manually I may not be using the best driver available. And graphic card driver is not something you should be messing with, since bad drivers can cause painfully frustrating BSODs.
Title: Re: Aquaria Config crashes when clicking Launch
Post by: Lady-Succubus on May 18, 2010, 11:00:01 pm
That works, but is it safe to install the driver like that? The wizard says something about how if I select my driver manually I may not be using the best driver available. And graphic card driver is not something you should be messing with, since bad drivers can cause painfully frustrating BSODs.
Hm... remember back when you got that warning that said
The driver that is being installed, is not validated for this computer. Ask your manufacturer for the correct driver. The installer will now quit.
That warning also basically meant "You're not using the 'best driver available' for your Dell computer." So basically, your two choices really are between risk and... your outdated drivers. :S
Now let's hope someone else drops by and tells me I'm an idiot. ^.^
Title: Re: Aquaria Config crashes when clicking Launch
Post by: Pieter on May 19, 2010, 08:36:50 pm
Sounds like no one's objecting. But if something goes wrong, I'll still be able to boot into safe mode, correct?
Title: Re: Aquaria Config crashes when clicking Launch
Post by: Lady-Succubus on May 19, 2010, 10:17:15 pm
I don't know. :( I... guess. Save a copy of Dell's outdated driver somewhere just to be safe though, so you can get to it that much faster, though the windows dialog DOES have a roll back button... Sometimes I feel computer stupid. >_<
Title: Re: Aquaria Config crashes when clicking Launch
Post by: Pieter on May 21, 2010, 09:37:24 pm
The new driver's working fine:

(http://img24.imageshack.us/img24/5192/drivero.jpg)

That's the good news. Here's the bad news: Aquaria Config still crashes when I click launch.
Title: Re: Aquaria Config crashes when clicking Launch
Post by: Lady-Succubus on May 21, 2010, 09:39:41 pm
Intel's drivers normally do work fine. Hardware vendors are just paranoid. ^.–

Is it the config that crashes, or does the config disappear and then the game window pops up and then that crashes?
Title: Re: Aquaria Config crashes when clicking Launch
Post by: Pieter on May 21, 2010, 09:43:27 pm
Nope, it's Aquaria Config that crashes. Aquaria Config doesn't seem to save my settings before crashing, because they always default to VSync on, Frame Buffer effects on, fullscreen on and a 800x600 resolution.
Title: Re: Aquaria Config crashes when clicking Launch
Post by: Lady-Succubus on May 21, 2010, 09:46:41 pm
You're using an administrator (non-limited) account, right?
Title: Re: Aquaria Config crashes when clicking Launch
Post by: Pieter on May 21, 2010, 09:50:01 pm
That is correct.
Title: Re: Aquaria Config crashes when clicking Launch
Post by: Lady-Succubus on May 21, 2010, 10:00:30 pm
I'm out of ideas. :(
Title: Re: Aquaria Config crashes when clicking Launch
Post by: Pieter on May 21, 2010, 10:22:41 pm
Hmm... perhaps it's an actual bug then. Well that's a bummer. Thanks for your help though. :)
Title: Re: Aquaria Config crashes when clicking Launch
Post by: Pelar on May 21, 2010, 10:34:08 pm
If you want to set the config manually, you can do it by opening the user settings XML file and changing them manually. Be careful, though.
Title: Re: Aquaria Config crashes when clicking Launch
Post by: Lady-Succubus on May 21, 2010, 11:32:07 pm
Once you do that, try starting the game with the Aquaria shortcut instead of the Configure shortcut.
Title: Re: Aquaria Config crashes when clicking Launch
Post by: Pieter on May 22, 2010, 08:27:15 pm
I get the window border of Aquaria (I set the fullscreen option to 0 in the config file) and then Windows XP freezes entirely.
Title: Re: Aquaria Config crashes when clicking Launch
Post by: Lady-Succubus on May 22, 2010, 08:37:35 pm
I get the window border of Aquaria (I set the fullscreen option to 0 in the config file) and then Windows XP freezes entirely.

Don't do that then. =^.^=
Title: Re: Aquaria Config crashes when clicking Launch
Post by: Pieter on May 22, 2010, 08:51:26 pm
I assume you mean I shouldn't launch it in windowed mode? I'm not asking Aquaria to do something it wasn't programmed to do, so that should work. :)
Title: Re: Aquaria Config crashes when clicking Launch
Post by: Lady-Succubus on May 22, 2010, 08:53:38 pm
I assume you mean I shouldn't launch it in windowed mode? I'm not asking Aquaria to do something it wasn't programmed to do, so that should work. :)

Does it work if you don't tell it to launch in windowed mode?
Title: Re: Aquaria Config crashes when clicking Launch
Post by: GMMan on May 23, 2010, 03:16:29 am
I notice that setting the resolution to 640*400 seems to crash the config, but I can manually set it from within the game.
Title: Re: Aquaria Config crashes when clicking Launch
Post by: Lady-Succubus on May 23, 2010, 06:12:57 am
Actually, Pieter should have just tried launching the config without changing any of the options and then run the game and see if it worked.
Title: Re: Aquaria Config crashes when clicking Launch
Post by: Pieter on May 24, 2010, 06:22:21 pm
I'll give that a try as soon as I boot into Windows (probably tomorrow).
Title: Re: Aquaria Config crashes when clicking Launch
Post by: Pieter on May 25, 2010, 03:07:01 pm
Nope, it's still crashing even if I don't touch the configuration file.
Title: Re: Aquaria Config crashes when clicking Launch
Post by: GMMan on May 26, 2010, 11:25:55 pm
It's best if you just change everything inside the game (providing you can enter the game). Otherwise, there's always Notepad and Wordpad (open up the config file -- it's a regular XML, and is quite easy to understand).

I might make the ultimate config app sometime, but first I'll have to figure out how to embed the Aquaria banner and how to actually edit the XML (AutoIt3: I've tried this one XML wrapper, but it seems a bit complicated. Maybe I should read the documentations).
Title: Re: Aquaria Config crashes when clicking Launch
Post by: Pieter on May 27, 2010, 09:12:36 pm
Whether I change any options or not, Aquaria crashes my computer when it's starting.
Title: Re: Aquaria Config crashes when clicking Launch
Post by: GMMan on May 28, 2010, 12:09:19 am
Aquaria or the config? If the former, delete your user_settings.xml (or something like that) to restore defaults.
Title: Re: Aquaria Config crashes when clicking Launch
Post by: Pieter on May 28, 2010, 08:55:08 am
If I run Aquaria - not the config - with default settings, it crashes my system.
Title: Re: Aquaria Config crashes when clicking Launch
Post by: GMMan on May 29, 2010, 06:32:12 pm
That's... odd. Have you tried updating your drivers? What's you graphic card? Aquaria runs fine on my integrated Intel graphics (circa 2003) on 640*480.
Title: Re: Aquaria Config crashes when clicking Launch
Post by: Pieter on May 30, 2010, 11:19:30 am
That's... odd. Have you tried updating your drivers? What's you graphic card? Aquaria runs fine on my integrated Intel graphics (circa 2003) on 640*480.
As you can see on page 1, I have already tried running Aquaria with updated drivers without success. In fact, my computer failed to hibernate or suspend correctly until I reverted my drivers to the older Dell-approved ones.
Title: Re: Aquaria Config crashes when clicking Launch
Post by: GMMan on May 31, 2010, 01:12:54 am
Well, I'm out of ideas. :( AFAIK it runs on my Dell with crappy Intel graphics fine (though a little bit slow). So the real problem now it you can't run Aquaria at all.