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Aquaria => Modding => Topic started by: dnarby on October 05, 2009, 04:34:24 pm

Title: Sacrifice - Stuck, need help
Post by: dnarby on October 05, 2009, 04:34:24 pm
Hi All,

First, really fun mod, and It's great to be playing it on the updated Aquaria with widescreen support.

But I'm stuck - I haven't found the nature form, and I can't make it into The Abyss.  I've found all the areas except for The Abyss (and the door in the NE of the Veil, which I guess was an additional level that may or may not be put in).

TIA,

Dave

PS When are we going to get a sequel to this awesome game!?  I mean, it worked out well for Half Life! XD
Title: Re: Sacrifice - Stuck, need help
Post by: TheBear on October 05, 2009, 05:07:16 pm
Nature form is obtained from the collectible vendor in Mithalas Cathedral but it isn't required to finish the game. The entrance to the abyss is in the southwest of Open Waters where the map gets pitch black. To get past this to the Abyss you will need the sun form which is given to you by Priestess Rajah in the same map after you have gone through corrupt Mithalas and spoken to Drask. The door in the NE Veil is indeed a cut level that may be added in the near future.
Title: Re: Sacrifice - Stuck, need help
Post by: dnarby on October 05, 2009, 05:46:21 pm
Nature form is obtained from the collectible vendor in Mithalas Cathedral but it isn't required to finish the game. The entrance to the abyss is in the southwest of Open Waters where the map gets pitch black. To get past this to the Abyss you will need the sun form which is given to you by Priestess Rajah in the same map after you have gone through corrupt Mithalas and spoken to Drask. The door in the NE Veil is indeed a cut level that may be added in the near future.

Thanks for your help, Bear, need a bit more I'm afraid...

I went back through open waters (uppermost portion of map),  and I guess the entrance to the Abyss is South of the chomping mouths.  I went back to Mithalas and checked Open Waters again, but I didn't see priestess Rajah.  Where is she?
Title: Re: Sacrifice - Stuck, need help
Post by: TheBear on October 05, 2009, 06:09:17 pm
The uppermost portion of the world map with the chomping mouths is in the Icy Veil. Open Waters is the southeast portion on the world map. The Mithalas city, with the houses and access to the rest of Aquaria, contains a current to the southeast that must be passed with beast form (this is where OpenWaters is).
Title: Re: Sacrifice - Stuck, need help
Post by: dnarby on October 05, 2009, 06:34:35 pm
The uppermost portion of the world map with the chomping mouths is in the Icy Veil. Open Waters is the southeast portion on the world map. The Mithalas city, with the houses and access to the rest of Aquaria, contains a current to the southeast that must be passed with beast form (this is where OpenWaters is).

...There it is!

Thanks!!!
Title: Re: Sacrifice - Stuck, need help
Post by: dnarby on October 05, 2009, 09:59:31 pm
OK...

Now I'm in Nightmare (made it through the Abyss), and I'm stuck behind a barrier with a pearl, but no socket to put it in to remove the barrier?!
Title: Re: Sacrifice - Stuck, need help
Post by: TheBear on October 05, 2009, 10:22:20 pm
The holder is just to the left of the door itself. The pearl you need for the holder is up in the northeast.
Title: Re: Sacrifice - Stuck, need help
Post by: dnarby on October 05, 2009, 10:33:22 pm
I looked all over but there doesn't appear to be a holder.

Here's a screenshot of where I'm at

(http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c264/dnarby/AquariaSacrificestuckpoint.jpg)

It's a little fuzzy because Photobucket de-rezzed it, but the character and pearl are near the bottom of the screenshot.
Title: Re: Sacrifice - Stuck, need help
Post by: TheBear on October 05, 2009, 10:50:54 pm
Weird. There should be an energy door just up to the left where Elena is in that picture. I assume there were a lot of enemies when you initially started going through the map? There was an energy door problem fixed in one of the first patches but the door was still showing up. I just downloaded the file on ModDB again and the door was in the correct place. I'd try reloading the level and making sure you have the most recent version of the mod (check patch notes in Aquaria\_mods\rpg_PrequelCampaign)
Title: Re: Sacrifice - Stuck, need help
Post by: dnarby on October 06, 2009, 12:28:39 am
Notes say v1.04.   I'll try d/l it again.
Title: Re: Sacrifice - Stuck, need help
Post by: TheBear on October 06, 2009, 12:36:11 am
I'd prefer to find the problem but feel free to move Elena past the barrier manually in the editor. Hit menu -> edit entities and then just drag Elena to the other side and continue on. I'm not sure what your problem is.
Title: Re: Sacrifice - Stuck, need help
Post by: dnarby on October 06, 2009, 12:56:28 am
It appears to  be related to the nature form.   For some reason when you cast a spike near it, sometimes the socket disappears.  Level plays fine with the energy form (haven't put the pearl in the socket yet, but it's where it should be).
Title: Re: Sacrifice - Stuck, need help
Post by: dnarby on October 06, 2009, 01:24:39 am
Yep, it's the nature form...  For some reason, it seems it's spikes erase the socket (or something, I didn't see it happen with all the enemies trying to kill me).  Weird glitch there, go figure.

Anyway,  I just finished the mod.  Nice job!  It was a real treat to get to play Aquaria again with new content.
Title: Re: Sacrifice - Stuck, need help
Post by: TheBear on October 06, 2009, 04:22:15 am
That's really weird. I wonder if that happens in vanilla Aquaria as well. I'll take a look at it tomorrow.
Title: Re: Sacrifice - Stuck, need help
Post by: auros on October 14, 2009, 12:15:51 am
I actually noticed, also, that you can use the nature spike to kill Gary the flower-tossing crab -- but his dialog node stays in play after he's dead...
Title: Re: Sacrifice - Stuck, need help
Post by: TheBear on October 14, 2009, 12:56:51 am
After some testing it looks like it is the laser beam from the Abyss Octopus entity that is destroying the energy door. My guess is that the beams damage doesn't account for a neutral target that it shouldn't be doing damage to. This issue doesn't seem like it would come up or effect anything in vanilla Aquaria. I think the best way to fix this is to simply remove those entities so that they don't have that opportunity. Surprised and glad no one else seemed to have this problem initially after release.

Gary must not enjoy living. Ever after I had to patch him so he couldn't die from energy form he finds a way (sigh). This should be an easy fix but I have yet to find a solution... keep on chugging Mr Bear.
Title: Re: Sacrifice - Stuck, need help
Post by: auros on October 14, 2009, 03:30:40 am
Maybe the easy way out on stuff like this is to assign the entities unreasonably high amounts of life.  Like five or ten times what the Hardbeetle has... :)
Title: Re: Sacrifice - Stuck, need help
Post by: dnarby on October 14, 2009, 04:57:54 pm
I actually noticed, also, that you can use the nature spike to kill Gary the flower-tossing crab -- but his dialog node stays in play after he's dead...

...Awww!

I bet you burnt ants with a magnifying glass when you were a kid, too!