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Aquaria => Gameplay => Topic started by: Aeon on September 10, 2008, 02:34:12 pm

Title: I give up (possible spoilers)
Post by: Aeon on September 10, 2008, 02:34:12 pm
(I am from a none english speaking country so my english is maybe a little ... different :D)

Hi everybody. First of all, i hate download only games. I am one of those crazy game collectors who never sells a game.  But still i decided to get Aquaria. And i do like it very much. (You still need to make Cover for the fans to print out... maybe i will do it myself)

The reason why i am posting is this: I played aquaria for 8 hours now. I found the energy form, the nature form, This rock lifting ability some treasures for my home and this blue armor outfit. And now i have NO idea what to do next. I have been swimming around for 2,5 hours now. There is no space on the maps where i havent been (besides the spots where i cant go because i am missing some the forms). For example... i cant swim through those hot steams in Mithalas.... I just cant find any more forms.

I guess there is one more in Kelp forest besides the nature form. (i looked at the maps somebody from here did. Still cant figure out what to do.)



Title: Re: I give up
Post by: Galefury on September 10, 2008, 03:12:19 pm
Seems like you haven't fully explored Mithalas. There's another form there which will allow you to continue.
Title: Re: I give up
Post by: Aeon on September 10, 2008, 03:24:14 pm
I think i have.... There is one place in Mithalas that i cant go to because of the heavy current.

If i am already able to swim against those currents .... nobody told me :( I tried it with a hot soup (speed + 1). Wasnt working.

When i am looking at those maps http://www.yandwproductions.com/games/aquaria_maps.pdf at page 16 and 17 then i just cant figure out how to get the form near drasks trident (which i havent got either). Because i cant swim through the steam nor cant i against the current (page 16. I am guessing that this green nature tunnel thing on page 16 is connected to page 17). So i think i need to find another form before i can get this one.

What about page 21. Is this one of the forms aswell? I dont have that. No idea what to do. I do realize that the symbols on the stones are the same like my sing icons.

Title: Re: I give up
Post by: Chibi on September 10, 2008, 03:48:18 pm
I won't spoil the puzzle that you need to defeat to get the Fish Form, but if you travel around the area of that symbol, you'll see a thin passage. You are NOT stopped by the passage: just bounce off the walls until you get to a room with lots of colored fish in it (other topics say how to solve the puzzle) Good luck!  ;)
Title: Re: I give up
Post by: Aeon on September 10, 2008, 04:39:18 pm
I found the area already. I just couldnt figure out the puzzle. I wasnt even sure it is a puzzle until i looked at the maps. And than i just didnt realize that the little fish around here are actually part of the puzzle and not just part of the leveldesign. I guess there is a reason why so many people have a problem with this.

Still a great game. Especially for a little team like this. Thanks for the help
Title: Re: I give up
Post by: Galefury on September 10, 2008, 04:44:25 pm
You don't need the fish form to continue in Mithalas. You can do it right after the Energy Temple. I don't know how far you explored already, but IIRC there is a puzzle that lets you continue from the throne room.
Title: Re: I give up
Post by: Aeon on September 10, 2008, 05:28:29 pm
I just realized that. Got the fish form and explored everything agian..... Now i am as far as i was before. Except the fact that i have the fish form and can swim faster :O I am more the action game typ of guy, maybe i am just too stupid for those puzzles :(
Title: Re: I give up
Post by: silverflagon on September 10, 2008, 06:40:40 pm
Hi Aeon :D

Do explore all the little corners in the area around the throneroom, and if you follow every wall eventually you will find an item that is missing from the throneroom, but first really look at the throneroom until you spot what's missing then you will have an idea of what you are looking for  :D

Then hold on to your horses the next part is a heack of a ride but it's not the toughest part by far :D
Title: Re: I give up
Post by: Aeon on September 10, 2008, 07:40:40 pm
Ok i just did that. I cant figure out whats missing here. According to those maps its maybe one of those emblems inside the chair. But mine is already in their. (Maybe i found it weeks ago when i gave up the first time O_o) So i am not sure what happenend when i placed it in the chair. Other than that the only thing thats missing is the half of the right banner and maybe the picture of the king. Which is in the cave where this coin emblem probably was.

Still ... the door in the throne room remains closed.

Look guys... I really appreciate that you guys arent wanna spoil me anything. But i really did waste the last 4 hours doing ... nothing. So please... spoil me what i have to do to reach some new areas. Its driving me nuts. Everytime i think: "Now this should be it" the only thing i find is some treasure or a a new little cave which leads into another dead end.

I am so tired of where i am right now. I visited every area like 5 times. And i am not exaggerating.
Title: Re: I give up
Post by: silverflagon on September 10, 2008, 07:48:27 pm
That is strange because replacing the missing medalion in the last chair should allow you to pass through the door to the right, have you tried to swim through at all, and are there three medalions one in each throne?
Title: Re: I give up
Post by: Aeon on September 10, 2008, 07:49:58 pm
Yes there are. In every throne is one. Sure i have tried to swim through it. Its not working :(

Please dont tell me i have to start over :(

Proof

(http://aeon.ist.nicht.unwichtig.org/pages/stuff/throne.jpg)
Title: Re: I give up (possible spoilers)
Post by: silverflagon on September 10, 2008, 08:04:41 pm
It looks like you have hit a bug there Aeon, have you tried going back to an earlier save? It would indeed be a pain to go back to the start, but if you made many saves going back until you find yourself in the area but before you placed them should solve the problem.
Title: Re: I give up (possible spoilers)
Post by: silverflagon on September 10, 2008, 08:06:26 pm
Oh and post this picture in the support board also because Alec likes to know about any bugs that occur.
Title: Re: I give up (possible spoilers)
Post by: Glamador on September 10, 2008, 08:10:24 pm
What are chairs made for?  Sit in it.
Title: Re: I give up (possible spoilers)
Post by: silverflagon on September 10, 2008, 08:18:44 pm
What are chairs made for?  Sit in it.

The key is sitting in it :o Doh! lol I just thought that was a coincidence lol :-[
Title: Re: I give up (possible spoilers)
Post by: Aeon on September 10, 2008, 08:42:28 pm
.... well... that worked  :o

Thanks. I would have never thought of that. Sorry :(
Title: Re: I give up (possible spoilers)
Post by: silverflagon on September 10, 2008, 08:52:10 pm
I guess that I wouldn't of been able to think of it either, if I didn't have delusions of grandure and wanted her to sit on the throne lol
Title: Re: I give up (possible spoilers)
Post by: Alec on September 10, 2008, 08:55:56 pm
We were going to put statues in the other chairs at some point to make it more obvious, but it would be tricky to get that art created now.

Maybe I can shoehorn someone into make those sprites for me.
Title: Re: I give up (possible spoilers)
Post by: silverflagon on September 10, 2008, 08:59:56 pm
I think it looks good as it is Alex, it's more in keeping with the lost civiliastion feel :D Besides puzzles are there for the solving and we are here to help if folks get really stuck :D
Title: Re: I give up (possible spoilers)
Post by: Alec on September 10, 2008, 09:01:26 pm
I think it looks good as it is Alex, it's more in keeping with the lost civiliastion feel :D Besides puzzles are there for the solving and we are here to help if folks get really stuck :D

I think a clue would be pretty helpful in this situation, I've seen a number of people get stuck there.
Title: Re: I give up (possible spoilers)
Post by: silverflagon on September 10, 2008, 09:05:44 pm
A cushion on the middle one perhaps? lol
Title: Re: I give up (possible spoilers)
Post by: Alec on September 10, 2008, 09:10:16 pm
Well the idea was to put two statues of Mithalans sitting on the other thrones. (or maybe just one) That would get people thinking in the right direction, and it would also look pretty cool.
Title: Re: I give up (possible spoilers)
Post by: Aeon on September 10, 2008, 09:11:05 pm
I guess the problem is that i just didnt realize that i could actually sit on chairs. (i know how this sounds) Everytime i found a bed i knew that i can sit down there. But there hasnt been a chair before. Maybe if there would have been one earlier (maybe in the house) which introduced the players to ... well... sitting :D it probably would have been more obvious.  Or just put a big red arrow with a "SIT DOWN" sign on it into the background ;) Thanks again for the help.
Title: Re: I give up (possible spoilers)
Post by: Danger Mouse on September 10, 2008, 09:28:33 pm
I guess I got lucky with this one then. I never got stuck here. I saw immediately that when I had the mouse over the chair it changed the cursor to the highlighted one to let me know that I could interact with it. It just seemed obvious to me what to do here. The only place that had me stuck for a bit was the boss that I had to trick into feeding it a poisoned creature, because it looked like I was damaging it by shooting at it in energy form.
Title: Re: I give up (possible spoilers)
Post by: silverflagon on September 10, 2008, 09:30:53 pm
I guess the problem is that i just didnt realize that i could actually sit on chairs. (i know how this sounds) Everytime i found a bed i knew that i can sit down there. But there hasnt been a chair before. Maybe if there would have been one earlier (maybe in the house) which introduced the players to ... well... sitting :D it probably would have been more obvious.  Or just put a big red arrow with a "SIT DOWN" sign on it into the background ;) Thanks again for the help.

Very true Alec :D

Aeon have you found the areas where you can sitdown yet and where there isn't a chair, whatch out there are more than you think? ;)
Title: Re: I give up (possible spoilers)
Post by: Chibi on September 11, 2008, 12:59:06 am
I used the same method as Dangermouse; i.e. my cursor lit up when it passed over the chair. What was REALLY hard were the three laser-jellyfish and their ugly spawn  >:D
Title: Re: I give up (possible spoilers)
Post by: Aeon on September 11, 2008, 01:03:14 am
You see.. i had no problem at all with the jelly fish :D.

I just reached this big guy in the cave. After shooting at him for 5 to 6 minutes i figured its puzzle again :( Puzzle disguised in an action sequence. I suck at puzzles.
Title: Re: I give up (possible spoilers)
Post by: Chibi on September 11, 2008, 01:05:20 am
My method of attacking puzzles is brute force: I bang my head against every rock, sing every combination of note, and right-click everywhere.  ;D
Title: Re: I give up (possible spoilers)
Post by: Aeon on September 11, 2008, 01:16:39 am
Maybe i am getting old but i just dont have the patience any more to try everything 5 times. I am pretty certain that i would have killed this big guy if it was only for my shooting and movment skills. I am guessing there is something else i need to do. Like lure him into those gas things or something.

It would be fine if i die 5 times because its so hard to dodge his shots or whatever.I am used to that from games like R-type and ikaruga. I am fine with that. But if i cant figure out what i need to do or how i need to do it then i am getting dicouraged. Its obviously mostly my fault. Happens to me all the time in other games aswell. I just would like to play through the game, experience the story, the artwork (which is mostly why i bought the game) and the great sound score.

EDIT: Btw... i dont have a cursor. I am playing the game with my PS3 Joypad. I know i should play it with mouse first but i think its much more enjoyable with a gamepad.
Title: Re: I give up (possible spoilers)
Post by: silverflagon on September 11, 2008, 01:36:47 am
Maybe i am getting old but i just dont have the patience any more to try everything 5 times. I am pretty certain that i would have killed this big guy if it was only for my shooting and movment skills. I am guessing there is something else i need to do. Like lure him into those gas things or something.

It would be fine if i die 5 times because its so hard to dodge his shots or whatever.I am used to that from games like R-type and ikaruga. I am fine with that. But if i cant figure out what i need to do or how i need to do it then i am getting dicouraged. Its obviously mostly my fault. Happens to me all the time in other games aswell. I just would like to play through the game, experience the story, the artwork (which is mostly why i bought the game) and the great sound score.

EDIT: Btw... i dont have a cursor. I am playing the game with my PS3 Joypad. I know i should play it with mouse first but i think its much more enjoyable with a gamepad.
Ow! Gamepad is ok most of the time but you might find places where you will need to use the mouse, I don't think that you can jump using the game pad for instance?

I am going to guess that this big guy is the one at the end of that disgusting tunnel/intestine area at the bottom right of the Mithlas Cathedral area?

Your energy shots won't work very well on him, you need to look around for a poisoned creature to bind, fly up and grab the ceiling to stop him sucking you in and let him swallow the bound item, do this several times and he will die.
Title: Re: I give up (possible spoilers)
Post by: Aeon on September 11, 2008, 01:48:28 am
Jump? I am under water  :D Are you playing a different game? Dont worry you havent spoiled me anything. I have seen it in the trailer :)

You guessed right. Thats the one i am talking about. Thanks for the tip. Do you know if i can kill him with the energy shot? If i can manage to stay alive long enough.
Title: Re: I give up (possible spoilers)
Post by: Chibi on September 11, 2008, 01:50:57 am
You can kill him with the energy shot, but only after SPOILERS AHOY!!                                  you pop his eyes out by feeding him poison three times (that's a really gruesome scene)
Title: Re: I give up (possible spoilers)
Post by: Aeon on September 11, 2008, 02:33:26 am
I must admit. Now that i know what i needed to do its really an awesome boss fight. Got 2 new forms now. Now i can travel everywhere i couldnt go before. Thats what i have been waiting for.
Title: Re: I give up (possible spoilers)
Post by: silverflagon on September 11, 2008, 02:48:01 am
I mean jump by the quick flip of the wall to the other side to grab again Aeon :D